Comments on: Off-Day Open Thread http://redlegnation.com/2008/09/15/off-day-open-thread-6/ A Cincinnati Reds Blog | Still trying to Vote Votto Thu, 29 Jul 2010 11:39:31 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: The Redhead http://redlegnation.com/2008/09/15/off-day-open-thread-6/#comment-1173883 The Redhead Wed, 17 Sep 2008 14:18:10 +0000 http://redlegnation.com/2008/09/15/off-day-open-thread-6/#comment-1173883 #1. Fire Dusty...go after Yost. (Unless LaRussa would leave St. louis to hang with Jocketty again.) #2. Don't wait, rid yourself of Patterson and Weathers now. #3. Begin the search for the offseason lining u every possible free agent you can think of. all the while playing our young players everywhere on the field. And throw Votto in the OF for a few games. Try EE at 1st and the OF. Our pitching should be okay, and no pitchers want to come to Cincy. Look for a bat! #1. Fire Dusty…go after Yost. (Unless LaRussa would leave St. louis to hang with Jocketty again.)
#2. Don’t wait, rid yourself of Patterson and Weathers now.
#3. Begin the search for the offseason lining u every possible free agent you can think of. all the while playing our young players everywhere on the field. And throw Votto in the OF for a few games. Try EE at 1st and the OF.

Our pitching should be okay, and no pitchers want to come to Cincy. Look for a bat!

]]> By: Dunner was cool http://redlegnation.com/2008/09/15/off-day-open-thread-6/#comment-1173185 Dunner was cool Tue, 16 Sep 2008 21:38:30 +0000 http://redlegnation.com/2008/09/15/off-day-open-thread-6/#comment-1173185 1. Sign Sabathia Burnett or Sheets (anyone of them is fine) 2. trade Arroyo and Bailey and throw in something to get Matt Holliday. 3. buy a pack of gum... nah forget it. lol 3 is to trade for a good 2nd basemen and move phillips to SS 1. Sign Sabathia Burnett or Sheets (anyone of them is fine)
2. trade Arroyo and Bailey and throw in something to get Matt Holliday.
3. buy a pack of gum…
nah forget it.
lol
3 is to trade for a good 2nd basemen and move phillips to SS

]]> By: mhopp http://redlegnation.com/2008/09/15/off-day-open-thread-6/#comment-1173172 mhopp Tue, 16 Sep 2008 21:15:32 +0000 http://redlegnation.com/2008/09/15/off-day-open-thread-6/#comment-1173172 Everyone seems to be creating too much work for themselves. You only need to do one thing to get things started 1) Fire Dusty Baker and then Patterson will be released and so will Bako. This automatically makes a .500 ball club assuming you bring in an average manager. I say bring up Rick Sweet and/or hire Ned Yost Everyone seems to be creating too much work for themselves. You only need to do one thing to get things started 1) Fire Dusty Baker and then Patterson will be released and so will Bako. This automatically makes a .500 ball club assuming you bring in an average manager. I say bring up Rick Sweet and/or hire Ned Yost

]]> By: Y-City Jim http://redlegnation.com/2008/09/15/off-day-open-thread-6/#comment-1173161 Y-City Jim Tue, 16 Sep 2008 20:50:32 +0000 http://redlegnation.com/2008/09/15/off-day-open-thread-6/#comment-1173161 So Mr. Red, gives us your perspective on why Baker is a good manager. Please don't tout the overall record, which is heavily influence by those "overachieving" Giants teams. He is only sporting about a .480 win percentage since that time. I mean does he offer great insights that improve player's performance? Is he just a wonderful guy that they want to play their hearts out for? I guess I'm looking for some quantification of his greatness. So Mr. Red, gives us your perspective on why Baker is a good manager. Please don’t tout the overall record, which is heavily influence by those “overachieving” Giants teams. He is only sporting about a .480 win percentage since that time. I mean does he offer great insights that improve player’s performance? Is he just a wonderful guy that they want to play their hearts out for? I guess I’m looking for some quantification of his greatness.

]]> By: catcard202 http://redlegnation.com/2008/09/15/off-day-open-thread-6/#comment-1173128 catcard202 Tue, 16 Sep 2008 19:08:58 +0000 http://redlegnation.com/2008/09/15/off-day-open-thread-6/#comment-1173128 1)Tell Dusty that he must: Play Richar at SS, Rosales at 3B, Dickerson at CF and Castillo in a UTL role...the rest of the way. 2) Shutdown Volquez, Cueto and Harang ...and let Pettyjohn, Ramirez & Masset handle those starts w/ a pitch count limit of 100. 3) Start trolling other clubs for possible off season trades (C, RHB LF, bullpen replacements). Everything else can be done/taken care of in the off-season. 1)Tell Dusty that he must: Play Richar at SS, Rosales at 3B, Dickerson at CF and Castillo in a UTL role…the rest of the way.

2) Shutdown Volquez, Cueto and Harang …and let Pettyjohn, Ramirez & Masset handle those starts w/ a pitch count limit of 100.

3) Start trolling other clubs for possible off season trades (C, RHB LF, bullpen replacements).

Everything else can be done/taken care of in the off-season.

]]> By: GregD http://redlegnation.com/2008/09/15/off-day-open-thread-6/#comment-1173098 GregD Tue, 16 Sep 2008 17:33:50 +0000 http://redlegnation.com/2008/09/15/off-day-open-thread-6/#comment-1173098 What's the difference between early September and Sept 15? What’s the difference between early September and Sept 15?

]]> By: Y-City Jim http://redlegnation.com/2008/09/15/off-day-open-thread-6/#comment-1173084 Y-City Jim Tue, 16 Sep 2008 16:31:55 +0000 http://redlegnation.com/2008/09/15/off-day-open-thread-6/#comment-1173084 <em>Fire a manager with two weeks to play? Ridiculous, no matter the circumstances. You do it in late August or early September, not now.</em> I presume you are talking about the Brewers' decision to fire Yost? Fire a manager with two weeks to play? Ridiculous, no matter the circumstances. You do it in late August or early September, not now.

I presume you are talking about the Brewers’ decision to fire Yost?

]]> By: Mr. Redlegs http://redlegnation.com/2008/09/15/off-day-open-thread-6/#comment-1172984 Mr. Redlegs Tue, 16 Sep 2008 11:54:55 +0000 http://redlegnation.com/2008/09/15/off-day-open-thread-6/#comment-1172984 Fire a manager with two weeks to play? Ridiculous, no matter the circumstances. You do it in late August or early September, not now. Fire a manager with two weeks to play? Ridiculous, no matter the circumstances. You do it in late August or early September, not now.

]]> By: Mr. Redlegs http://redlegnation.com/2008/09/15/off-day-open-thread-6/#comment-1172981 Mr. Redlegs Tue, 16 Sep 2008 11:54:17 +0000 http://redlegnation.com/2008/09/15/off-day-open-thread-6/#comment-1172981 A manager isn't defined by a season, but his body of work over a career. That's because it's still about talent. Look, Wedge is a guy who rankles a lot of people in the clubhouse. The Indians have a good year in 2007 and saves his job. Did Wedge do a worse job than last year? Is he not the same manager? Did he do a worse job this year with his talent than Baker did with his on the Reds? A manager isn’t defined by a season, but his body of work over a career. That’s because it’s still about talent.

Look, Wedge is a guy who rankles a lot of people in the clubhouse. The Indians have a good year in 2007 and saves his job. Did Wedge do a worse job than last year? Is he not the same manager?

Did he do a worse job this year with his talent than Baker did with his on the Reds?

]]> By: GRF http://redlegnation.com/2008/09/15/off-day-open-thread-6/#comment-1172864 GRF Tue, 16 Sep 2008 04:49:44 +0000 http://redlegnation.com/2008/09/15/off-day-open-thread-6/#comment-1172864 know = now (among other typos). Clearly time to stop typing. Good night all. know = now (among other typos). Clearly time to stop typing. Good night all.

]]> By: GRF http://redlegnation.com/2008/09/15/off-day-open-thread-6/#comment-1172862 GRF Tue, 16 Sep 2008 04:46:05 +0000 http://redlegnation.com/2008/09/15/off-day-open-thread-6/#comment-1172862 All right Redlegs, I have to give you Manuel and Wedge because I have seen them close up. Don't know how we can judge Svern yet, but I would have given you Yost. Hillman has had an awful season by all accounts and I guess the same can be said of Trembley. Washington I think has actually done pretty well in Texas, and geren seemed to be doing ok with the A's until they retooled. Frankly I think Cooper has done a heck of a job on paper given what he has in Houston. Haven't seen enough of San Diego to say, and I have no idea how to evaluate a NYY manager given all that goes into that job (payroll, media, front office). Guess where all that leads me is that i still have troubling believing baker's performance this year puts him in the top half of managers for this season. Maybe track record wins out, but for subjective reasons I admit I can't define I have a bad feeling about how this will end. Totally off topic, but where are you on the Yost firing? Confess I didn't like his game management, but don't se how firing him know helps. All right Redlegs, I have to give you Manuel and Wedge because I have seen them close up. Don’t know how we can judge Svern yet, but I would have given you Yost. Hillman has had an awful season by all accounts and I guess the same can be said of Trembley. Washington I think has actually done pretty well in Texas, and geren seemed to be doing ok with the A’s until they retooled. Frankly I think Cooper has done a heck of a job on paper given what he has in Houston. Haven’t seen enough of San Diego to say, and I have no idea how to evaluate a NYY manager given all that goes into that job (payroll, media, front office).

Guess where all that leads me is that i still have troubling believing baker’s performance this year puts him in the top half of managers for this season. Maybe track record wins out, but for subjective reasons I admit I can’t define I have a bad feeling about how this will end.

Totally off topic, but where are you on the Yost firing? Confess I didn’t like his game management, but don’t se how firing him know helps.

]]> By: Mr. Redlegs http://redlegnation.com/2008/09/15/off-day-open-thread-6/#comment-1172840 Mr. Redlegs Tue, 16 Sep 2008 03:42:49 +0000 http://redlegnation.com/2008/09/15/off-day-open-thread-6/#comment-1172840 Washington, Gonzalez, Hillman, Russell, Black, Riggleman, Trembley, Svem, Melvin, Geren, Girardi, Wedge, Cooper, the two Manuels and so forth. Washington, Gonzalez, Hillman, Russell, Black, Riggleman, Trembley, Svem, Melvin, Geren, Girardi, Wedge, Cooper, the two Manuels and so forth.

]]> By: Kurt Frost http://redlegnation.com/2008/09/15/off-day-open-thread-6/#comment-1172837 Kurt Frost Tue, 16 Sep 2008 03:31:44 +0000 http://redlegnation.com/2008/09/15/off-day-open-thread-6/#comment-1172837 Who are these managers who are worse? Who are these managers who are worse?

]]> By: Mr. Redlegs http://redlegnation.com/2008/09/15/off-day-open-thread-6/#comment-1172834 Mr. Redlegs Tue, 16 Sep 2008 03:21:08 +0000 http://redlegnation.com/2008/09/15/off-day-open-thread-6/#comment-1172834 <em>Honestly, will Baker ever manage again after this run in Cincinnati?</em> That's a joke, right? The man has a 15-year history that's pretty damn good, especially with some of those overachieving Giants teams. Look around at some of the people managing today and if you don't think Baker is an upgrade you're just fooling yourself. Honestly, will Baker ever manage again after this run in Cincinnati?

That’s a joke, right? The man has a 15-year history that’s pretty damn good, especially with some of those overachieving Giants teams. Look around at some of the people managing today and if you don’t think Baker is an upgrade you’re just fooling yourself.

]]> By: Mr. Redlegs http://redlegnation.com/2008/09/15/off-day-open-thread-6/#comment-1172831 Mr. Redlegs Tue, 16 Sep 2008 03:18:35 +0000 http://redlegnation.com/2008/09/15/off-day-open-thread-6/#comment-1172831 Because the White Sox have more middle of the order talent, that's why. Because the White Sox have more middle of the order talent, that’s why.

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