The Reds are better with Griffey and Dunn gone in the field. Bruce, although he has the errors, has been better than Griffey and Dickerson has been a lot better than Dunn.
Hey, with the win last night the reds STILL have a chance at a .500 season. Now all they have to do is win every game for the rest of the season!!! :razz:
On offense, the Reds are good at hitting HR’s. (Actually, that may not be all that true anymore w/o Dunn and Griffey… but on the season they’re 4th in the NL in HR’s.)
In pitching, they’re good at striking hitters out.
In my opinion, defensive efficiency is a HUGELY important stat. It’s really simple too — what percent of batted balls in play does the defense turn into outs?
So when Reds opponents put the ball in play, they bat .319.
When Tampa’s opponents put the ball in play, they bat .283.
That’s a BIG difference… and it makes the Reds pitching look worse than it is.
Hugely important… one of Erardi’s articles was about this several weeks ago… If I remember correctly, the Reds haven’t had a good team defense since 1999 - since the year they had Cameron in CF (and won 96 games).
I use to think defense didn’t matter in modern baseball. Just get some sluggers and a handful of starters with nasty changeups and you win the world series. But I have realized over the last 2-3 years that defense CAN matter if it’s as bad as the Reds.
To be honest the Reds defense has stunk since Larkin retired (and even a little bit before)
But the Reds are awful in almost EVERY way.
Offense: 23rd in baseball and worse without Dunn. Last good offense 2005. Led by Dunn, Casey, Freel, JR, LaRue, Lopez, and Randa.
Rotation: 23rd in baseball, Last good rotation (have they EVER had a great rotation?) 1999. Led by Harnisch, Parris, and Guzman
Bullpen: 19th in baseball. Last good bullpen, 2003. Led by Reitsma, Sullivan, Heredia, Williamson, and White
Defense: 28th in baseball but better without Jr. Last good defensive team 2000. Led by A Boone, JR, and Reese
and the team is not young.
In other words other than the potential of the 1-4 starters this team is absolutely @#$%#$ wretched.
The big stat for me is our pitchers leading the MLs in home runs allowed. Seems like they or Texas have that distinction every year. I know they’re HR parks, but …
September 14th, 2008 at 10:16 am
I wonder how much they have improved since Stumblebum and Captain No Hustle have left the outfield.
September 14th, 2008 at 11:23 am
Wow not only does BP make up their own stats but they come up with their own unique city/team abbreviations!!
September 14th, 2008 at 12:29 pm
I wonder how much they have improved since Stumblebum and Captain No Hustle have left the outfield.
I wonder if they had any impact at all. Let’s not forget that Bruce has 10 errors in the outfield.
September 14th, 2008 at 12:31 pm
Yes but Patterson negates those errors with his speed and veteran presence.
September 14th, 2008 at 12:31 pm
Even “defensive specialist” Corey Patterson has 3 errors over only 688 innings.
September 14th, 2008 at 1:09 pm
The Reds are better with Griffey and Dunn gone in the field. Bruce, although he has the errors, has been better than Griffey and Dickerson has been a lot better than Dunn.
September 14th, 2008 at 1:16 pm
Patterson is fast.
September 14th, 2008 at 1:53 pm
Name one thing the reds are NOT bad at? :roll:
September 14th, 2008 at 2:00 pm
Hey, with the win last night the reds STILL have a chance at a .500 season. Now all they have to do is win every game for the rest of the season!!! :razz:
September 14th, 2008 at 3:48 pm
The defense did improve by trading Jr. Jr is among the worst defensive OF in ALL of baseball.
Dunn’s defense had improved a bit this season and Bruce has been mediocre so it’s almost a wash.
The last time I looked the Reds were only above average at 2 positions. 2B and 1B.
not that it matters because the team can’t score.
oh, or pitch
oops….Reds management has somehow put together a team that SUCKS IN EVERY WAY
September 14th, 2008 at 4:24 pm
On offense, the Reds are good at hitting HR’s. (Actually, that may not be all that true anymore w/o Dunn and Griffey… but on the season they’re 4th in the NL in HR’s.)
In pitching, they’re good at striking hitters out.
The bullpen also hasn’t been bad.
That’s really about all that’s been good.
September 14th, 2008 at 4:28 pm
In my opinion, defensive efficiency is a HUGELY important stat. It’s really simple too — what percent of batted balls in play does the defense turn into outs?
So when Reds opponents put the ball in play, they bat .319.
When Tampa’s opponents put the ball in play, they bat .283.
That’s a BIG difference… and it makes the Reds pitching look worse than it is.
Hugely important… one of Erardi’s articles was about this several weeks ago… If I remember correctly, the Reds haven’t had a good team defense since 1999 - since the year they had Cameron in CF (and won 96 games).
September 14th, 2008 at 11:23 pm
I use to think defense didn’t matter in modern baseball. Just get some sluggers and a handful of starters with nasty changeups and you win the world series. But I have realized over the last 2-3 years that defense CAN matter if it’s as bad as the Reds.
To be honest the Reds defense has stunk since Larkin retired (and even a little bit before)
But the Reds are awful in almost EVERY way.
Offense: 23rd in baseball and worse without Dunn. Last good offense 2005. Led by Dunn, Casey, Freel, JR, LaRue, Lopez, and Randa.
Rotation: 23rd in baseball, Last good rotation (have they EVER had a great rotation?) 1999. Led by Harnisch, Parris, and Guzman
Bullpen: 19th in baseball. Last good bullpen, 2003. Led by Reitsma, Sullivan, Heredia, Williamson, and White
Defense: 28th in baseball but better without Jr. Last good defensive team 2000. Led by A Boone, JR, and Reese
and the team is not young.
In other words other than the potential of the 1-4 starters this team is absolutely @#$%#$ wretched.
September 15th, 2008 at 2:29 am
The big stat for me is our pitchers leading the MLs in home runs allowed. Seems like they or Texas have that distinction every year. I know they’re HR parks, but …
September 15th, 2008 at 7:47 am
If you listen to Marty for any length of time you’ll know that “this is NOT a fundamentally sound baseball team.”
September 15th, 2008 at 10:30 am
And as we all know, when Marty uses CAPs (the radio equilvalent), or says “flat out,” it must be true. :razz: