Quick Adam Dunn Trade Roundup
Just a quick roundup, because I’m not sure how much enthusiasm I’ll have over the next few days. I have lots of stuff I’d rather do right now than spend time on the sinking ship known as the Cincinnati Reds.
–Bob Castellini is delusional.
–Justin is going to wait to pass final judgment (he’s wise like that), but he sums up the feelings of many of us:
Morale-wise, it’s hard to feel very happy about this. The already-weak offense is going to be a disaster for the rest of the season, and this team clearly isn’t going to be much fun to watch. And Adam Dunn was always such a fun, charismatic guy–I’m going to miss him a lot. Add all of this to my already-frustrated state, and you don’t have a recipe for a lot of interest on my part through the rest of the season.
–Over at Redlegs Rundown, they are happy the Reds are doing something.
–”I don’t feel much like being a Reds fan any more,” says Daedalus, who is ordinarily the most optimistic Reds fan in the blogosphere.
–The Reds are the least interesting team in the National League, according to Chris Sabo’s Goggles.
–Red Hot Mama weighs in.
–More comments from Castellini.
August 12th, 2008 at 8:45 am
That “Reds will contend” comment from Castellini proves the man is smoking crack.
August 12th, 2008 at 8:49 am
The morning after.
August 12th, 2008 at 9:19 am
Much has been made of the Reds “thanking” Griffey when he left, but Dunn did much more for the Reds in his tenure than Griffey did, why not the same sentiments?
August 12th, 2008 at 9:38 am
Very, very good point, Bill. That may speak to how management really viewed Dunn.
August 12th, 2008 at 10:09 am
Unless all that money goes towards making trades or picking up quality players on free agency for next season… mark my words Bob… and I hope you are reading the fallout through the blogosphere… I will not be renewing my season ticket plan for next season.
This all comes from Marty Brennamen convincing able minds that Dunn is terrible simply because his BA is low. Everyone needs to realize that OBP is a much more telling statistic. Oh well… its all heresay at this point. The man is a Diamondback now. The Reds are left with nothing worth watching, unless Jay Bruce has a good day.
Now if the Reds can land a Texiera or someone of the like that could actually make an impact and play with some enthusiasm then I will be back on board the ship.
I will always be a Reds Fan but I will not pay a dime to see the crap that the organization is putting on the field for the remainder of this pathetic season.
I do realize that the Reds of the Adam Dunn / Junior Griffey era have pretty much been consistenly low energy, sit back and wait for the long-ball kind of clubs. But now we dont have anything. By getting rid of that we have left ourselves with a bunch of 4th outfielders and utility players. Is that really better?
Do something this offseason Bob. Spend some money if you expect any of us to spend ours. There is A LOT of work to be DUNN for us to contend next season.
August 12th, 2008 at 10:24 am
They’ll contend, sure.
“We will bring championship baseball back to Cincinnati.”
“We’re not going to lose any more.”
“Bigfoot is real.”
August 12th, 2008 at 10:42 am
Anyone who thinks Dunn was a help to this team is delusional. Next moves should be to get rid of Patterson and fire Dusty Baker. It’s time to free up cash for pitching and guys who care about hitting for avg, rather than just the long ball.
August 12th, 2008 at 12:19 pm
Thomas, no offense, but besides the comments about getting rid of patterson, you’re somewhat delusional.
Batting average is very overrated as a statistical measure.
Dunn’s OBP and SLG were both very good. He drove in runs and scored runs. He walked a lot. He didn’t just care about the long ball.
Obviously he had weaknesses, but to think that a guy that would hit 40 homers, score 100 runs and drive in 100 rbi’s every year isn’t a help to any team is a very delusional comment
August 12th, 2008 at 12:21 pm
Thomas…. If you think Dunn wasn’t helpful to the team, you are delusional. Getting on base 40% of the time you step to the plate, more than anyone else on the team isn’t helpful? Slugging well over .500 isn’t helpful?
Yeah, his defense sucked for the most part while he was here and overall hurt his value, but he still was one of the two best players on EVERY Reds team he played on.
As far as Dunn not caring to hit about average, thats a terrible notion. I bet Dunn would love to. He just can’t. He has a very small area in the zone where he can actually hit the ball hard. He is a very large guy, which creates a very long swing. Long swings make it tough to hit a lot of stuff, but unlike a lot of guys, he really can’t ’shorten his swing’ because he is 6′6.
Yeah, I would have loved for Dunn to hit .280, but just because you hit .280 doesn’t make you good. Adam Dunn is so much better than Brandon Phillips offensively its not even funny, but Phillips will always have a better batting average. He still will get on base a lot less than Dunn, ground into a billion double plays and not slug anywhere near as much.
August 12th, 2008 at 12:56 pm
Here is another article, its pretty good:
http://www.courier-journal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080812/COLUMNISTS01/808120465/1002/SPORTS
August 12th, 2008 at 1:00 pm
I don’t know how important the passionate, blogging fanbase is to the Reds, to be honest. This team’s market seems to be geared more for the casual fan or the family night out. If a bunch of die hards threaten to quit, I have a feeling they won’t pay much attention. It would take a documentable decline in attendance for them to take notice.
On another note, why didn’t anyone claim Dunn? I don’t really understand the whole waiver system, but you’d think teams would have been lined up to grab an offensive threat like Dunn.
August 12th, 2008 at 1:05 pm
So is this now Jay Bruce’s team? And has a 21 year old rookie ever been the face of a major league team before?
August 12th, 2008 at 1:19 pm
Castellini is delusional if he thinks the Reds can win next year … only why that happens is if the Reds open up the pocketbook and sign players like Sabbatha and Teixeira and such - and wel all know how high the price tags on those players are going to be.
August 12th, 2008 at 2:07 pm
I think the Reds are going to sell Phillips as the face of the franchise for the time being.
August 12th, 2008 at 2:54 pm
Jason,
According to Fay and CTR, several teams claimed Dunn, but Arizona was the team with the worst record that claimed him. The only other team in contention with a worse record is LA and a claim for them would likely have been as a block. Since AZ had the claim, they got dibs on making a deal with the Reds, which is what happened.