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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://redlegnation.com/2008/08/10/reds-make-movesone-idiotic/#comment-1144606</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 15:23:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Could we do any worse than the guys the Reds have hired in the last 15 years?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could we do any worse than the guys the Reds have hired in the last 15 years?</p>
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		<title>By: david</title>
		<link>http://redlegnation.com/2008/08/10/reds-make-movesone-idiotic/#comment-1144601</link>
		<dc:creator>david</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 15:10:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Too many GMs on this site for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too many GMs on this site for me.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://redlegnation.com/2008/08/10/reds-make-movesone-idiotic/#comment-1144592</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 14:49:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who else have they sent in recent years? I don&#039;t remember...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who else have they sent in recent years? I don&#8217;t remember&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Travis G.</title>
		<link>http://redlegnation.com/2008/08/10/reds-make-movesone-idiotic/#comment-1144582</link>
		<dc:creator>Travis G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 14:40:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It should be pointed out that, if the Reds designated Patterson and brought up Hanigan, who they believe might have a future role, there would be four catchers on the 25-man roster. That&#039;s actually dumber than occasionally playing Patterson.

Otherwise, I think Mr. Redlegs got it right at #23.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It should be pointed out that, if the Reds designated Patterson and brought up Hanigan, who they believe might have a future role, there would be four catchers on the 25-man roster. That&#8217;s actually dumber than occasionally playing Patterson.</p>
<p>Otherwise, I think Mr. Redlegs got it right at #23.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark in CC</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark in CC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 14:39:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it might be slightly unfair to say Hanigan hasn&#039;t been considered a prospect. The Reds did send him tho the Arizona Fall League the year before last which is typically made up of highly thought of prospects.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it might be slightly unfair to say Hanigan hasn&#8217;t been considered a prospect. The Reds did send him tho the Arizona Fall League the year before last which is typically made up of highly thought of prospects.</p>
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		<title>By: per14</title>
		<link>http://redlegnation.com/2008/08/10/reds-make-movesone-idiotic/#comment-1144554</link>
		<dc:creator>per14</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 12:52:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually agree this makes some sense. 

But what frustrates me is here is a guy with a .381 OBP (in limited time), with some pop, who from I can tell is at least ok defensively, and he has essentially been the back-up all year. I know it really wouldn&#039;t have made much a difference, but I wonder how the season would have gone had he been getting starter-ABs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually agree this makes some sense. </p>
<p>But what frustrates me is here is a guy with a .381 OBP (in limited time), with some pop, who from I can tell is at least ok defensively, and he has essentially been the back-up all year. I know it really wouldn&#8217;t have made much a difference, but I wonder how the season would have gone had he been getting starter-ABs.</p>
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		<title>By: brublejr</title>
		<link>http://redlegnation.com/2008/08/10/reds-make-movesone-idiotic/#comment-1144489</link>
		<dc:creator>brublejr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 10:08:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am probably in the minority here, but I don&#039;t think it was a dumb move.  By DFA him, the reds can get something in return for a player that would not be here anyways.  Hanigan has been very good this year, and the Free Agent class for catchers is terrible.  I have been wanting for a while to see if Hanigan can handle it, so the reds don&#039;t overpay for a catcher in free agency.  Now of the three catchers on the roster, I think Ross was the more valuable, meaning he is the only one anyone is interested in.  Sure you could DFA the other two, but nobody would be interested.  Maybe we can work out a deal and get a diamond in the rough prospect.

Now...Walt needs to clean out some more room for evaluations because we have some guys with potential and need a look (Dickerson).  The reds have no chance of contention, and having young guys play now gives you a much better indicator than spring training.  Walt needs to DFA Patterson, bring up Dickerson, Send Majewski to L&#039;Ville and bring up one of the young guys there.  

Hopefully in September we will see all the young guys getting a chance in order to see what direction our offseason is going to go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am probably in the minority here, but I don&#8217;t think it was a dumb move.  By DFA him, the reds can get something in return for a player that would not be here anyways.  Hanigan has been very good this year, and the Free Agent class for catchers is terrible.  I have been wanting for a while to see if Hanigan can handle it, so the reds don&#8217;t overpay for a catcher in free agency.  Now of the three catchers on the roster, I think Ross was the more valuable, meaning he is the only one anyone is interested in.  Sure you could DFA the other two, but nobody would be interested.  Maybe we can work out a deal and get a diamond in the rough prospect.</p>
<p>Now&#8230;Walt needs to clean out some more room for evaluations because we have some guys with potential and need a look (Dickerson).  The reds have no chance of contention, and having young guys play now gives you a much better indicator than spring training.  Walt needs to DFA Patterson, bring up Dickerson, Send Majewski to L&#8217;Ville and bring up one of the young guys there.  </p>
<p>Hopefully in September we will see all the young guys getting a chance in order to see what direction our offseason is going to go.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Redlegs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. Redlegs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 04:57:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did you know the only thing Bray does left-handed is throw a ball? He does everything else right-handed, including signing his name. Now that one is kookier than a right-handed batting left-hander.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you know the only thing Bray does left-handed is throw a ball? He does everything else right-handed, including signing his name. Now that one is kookier than a right-handed batting left-hander.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Bruce for President</title>
		<link>http://redlegnation.com/2008/08/10/reds-make-movesone-idiotic/#comment-1144305</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Bruce for President</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 04:33:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks Jim thought i would break the tension

and i have to disagree with 27
i throw right handed but bat lefthanded
i had to teach myself how to bat right handed.
some people automatically do things a certain way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks Jim thought i would break the tension</p>
<p>and i have to disagree with 27<br />
i throw right handed but bat lefthanded<br />
i had to teach myself how to bat right handed.<br />
some people automatically do things a certain way.</p>
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		<title>By: Y-City Jim</title>
		<link>http://redlegnation.com/2008/08/10/reds-make-movesone-idiotic/#comment-1144288</link>
		<dc:creator>Y-City Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 03:55:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;So who wants pie?&lt;/em&gt;

My favorite comment of the night.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>So who wants pie?</em></p>
<p>My favorite comment of the night.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://redlegnation.com/2008/08/10/reds-make-movesone-idiotic/#comment-1144286</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 03:54:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t muster up any outrage any more.  This team is terrible.  The organization steps on its crank as often as it does something right.  I don&#039;t see any light at the end of the tunnel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t muster up any outrage any more.  This team is terrible.  The organization steps on its crank as often as it does something right.  I don&#8217;t see any light at the end of the tunnel.</p>
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		<title>By: DevilsAdvocate</title>
		<link>http://redlegnation.com/2008/08/10/reds-make-movesone-idiotic/#comment-1144248</link>
		<dc:creator>DevilsAdvocate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 02:34:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And I agree with what I sense this discussion is coming around to, which is that the frustration level I and others have with this small move is inordinately high - it&#039;s the straw that broke the camel&#039;s back, perhaps.

At any rate, it&#039;s definitely that time of year when Reds&#039; fans eat their own, quibbling over where to place the blame for another season of dashed hopes and broken dreams.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And I agree with what I sense this discussion is coming around to, which is that the frustration level I and others have with this small move is inordinately high &#8211; it&#8217;s the straw that broke the camel&#8217;s back, perhaps.</p>
<p>At any rate, it&#8217;s definitely that time of year when Reds&#8217; fans eat their own, quibbling over where to place the blame for another season of dashed hopes and broken dreams.</p>
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		<title>By: DevilsAdvocate</title>
		<link>http://redlegnation.com/2008/08/10/reds-make-movesone-idiotic/#comment-1144246</link>
		<dc:creator>DevilsAdvocate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 02:33:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a note: Bako is right-handed.  There is pretty much no such thing as a left-handed catcher.  However, Bako must have taught himself to hit left-handed at some point, which I guess makes him a valued commodity...though maybe I should put &quot;hit&quot; in quotation marks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a note: Bako is right-handed.  There is pretty much no such thing as a left-handed catcher.  However, Bako must have taught himself to hit left-handed at some point, which I guess makes him a valued commodity&#8230;though maybe I should put &#8220;hit&#8221; in quotation marks.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Bruce for President</title>
		<link>http://redlegnation.com/2008/08/10/reds-make-movesone-idiotic/#comment-1144244</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Bruce for President</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 02:27:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So who wants pie?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So who wants pie?</p>
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		<title>By: Jared</title>
		<link>http://redlegnation.com/2008/08/10/reds-make-movesone-idiotic/#comment-1144238</link>
		<dc:creator>Jared</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 02:25:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m surprised at how overwhelmingly unsupportive you guys are of Ross being sent down. He sucks. Bako is the best catcher on the team. I&#039;ve been saying all year that I hoped when Ross came back, either Ross or Valentin were sent down to make a roster spot for someone useful.

Now, this season is an utter and complete loss so it doesn&#039;t matter so much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m surprised at how overwhelmingly unsupportive you guys are of Ross being sent down. He sucks. Bako is the best catcher on the team. I&#8217;ve been saying all year that I hoped when Ross came back, either Ross or Valentin were sent down to make a roster spot for someone useful.</p>
<p>Now, this season is an utter and complete loss so it doesn&#8217;t matter so much.</p>
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