Dusty surely must have egg on his face from having Patterson at all. At this point, with Dunn and Griffey on the trading block we unfortunately may see more of him since one or both of those are going to be leaving.
Weird line-up with Bruce and Votto and Eddie back:
Jerry Hairston Jr. CF
Jeff Keppinger SS
Ken Griffey Jr. DH
Brandon Phillips 2B
Edwin Encarnacion 3B
Adam Dunn LF
Javier Valentin 1B
Norris Hopper RF
David Ross C
I could deal with the haircut in 2006 when he was pitching well…but I don’t feel like he can justify it anymore…I’d like to see a list of the worst “ERA to Contract Size” ratios in the league.
It’s interesting that there isn’t a whole lot of difference between Laffey’s change-up and fastball yet he has been very effective this season for the Indians. Good thing since they will lose Sabathia after this year.
If I’m Mark Shapiro I am dealing Sabathia for as many good prospects I can get my hands on. There is no way Larry Dolan is coughing up the money to resign him. Dolan is tighter than Carl Linder and not nearly as wealthy.
Last season Pujols and Carlos Lee lead the majors in “grounded into douple plays” with 27, BP had 26. This season he has 10, but not a leader because looks like Derrek Lee is on pace to break the record.
Looks like Bronson curbed the partying before today’s start.
He was probably partying with his Red Sox buddies since they had an off day in New York the day before his last start in Toronto. He probably thought he could pitch drunk like his friend, David Wells!
Hey 47, I wondered the same thing about Arroyo’s last start. That stuff is kept under wraps but wouldn’t surprise me if he was out partying Sunday night and Monday.
Dunn is a stud, but I’m not so sure that the Reds plan to resign him. Are there any elite power hitters eligible for free agency after the season? Jocketty/Castellini might be waiting to see who’s available before deciding on Dunn.
I think Pat Burell is, but I can’t imagine why the Reds would let Dunn (who is a sure thing if they want him) go in hopes of signing someone so similar.
Remember when Andy Marte was a #1 can’t-miss prospect? Boy, did he ever miss. Let that be a lesson, if the Braves are willing to trade a prospect, that prospect is not as good as he looks. Exhibit #2 would be Matt Belisle.
I really don’t pay attention to baseball outside of the Reds…so I’m wondering, do all teams have crappy relief pitchers that scare, frustrate, and disappoint them?
Also, I remember something in 2006 about Arroyo leading the league in innings pitched and being a workhorse with a lot of endurance? Oh how things change…
George and Chris talking about who have to carry the load for the Reds to turn it around. Griffey’s name mentioned by them. My advice is don’t be holding your breath on Junior carrying much of a load.
I know he’s a future hall-of-famer, and hit 600 homeruns, but I still laugh out loud every time I see he’s going to start the All-Star Game. I don’t understand why an outfielder who can’t run and hits .230 would be an All-Star.
It’s also nice of him to bring in Majewski because I’m sure it keeps the ratings up, I’m not comfortable closing gameday and working on my paper, even at 8-2 in the 8th.
I hope he hangs it up at the end of this season…I really do love Junior’s demeanor and attitude, and it’s great that he came back to Cincinnati like he did, but if he keeps playing after this year, I feel like it will just amount to a smudge on his legacy.
So, I guess we’re going to have a winning road-trip. It’s weird to think that we have 5 more wins this season at the halfway point than last year…I don’t remember feeling this outraged and hateful about our performance a year ago!
I think if Castellini and Jocketty would sit down during the All-Star break with Dunn (which means going fishing with him) that Dunn would sign an extension.
Buddy- especially after what Jacobs did for resurrecting the franchise. Dolan so overpaid for the team that he has to do everything he can to make money.
Well I guess they didnt have much choice. No wonder ballparks and arena’s are all named after corporations, according to Wiki, Progressive agreed to pay $57.6 million for the naming rights for 16 years…must be nice having that kind of money to blow
I’m glad there are others out there who want Dunn back…I feel worried more than ever this year that he’s going. Usually it’s just trade rumors and I’m keeping my fingers crossed, but this year it feels more serious.
right Kev gotcha….i agree…and then of course when the corps buy each other out…the park changes names Like in SF where every year it seems like its called something different.
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Do you think Walt made Dusty stop leading Patterson off?
No, I think public pressure put a stop to it.
A winning road trip rests with Arroyo. Not real good odds.
Dusty surely must have egg on his face from having Patterson at all. At this point, with Dunn and Griffey on the trading block we unfortunately may see more of him since one or both of those are going to be leaving.
Weird line-up with Bruce and Votto and Eddie back:
Jerry Hairston Jr. CF
Jeff Keppinger SS
Ken Griffey Jr. DH
Brandon Phillips 2B
Edwin Encarnacion 3B
Adam Dunn LF
Javier Valentin 1B
Norris Hopper RF
David Ross C
Weird line-up without Bruce and Votto is what I meant.
With the exception of one outing, Laffey has been pretty good for the Indians.
Of course, Dusty takes Bruce out after going 2 for 4 and Votto out after 2 for 4 last night when both hit LHP’s good. What a fool.
Oh the base running on this team, ugh
With 2 outs and a big guy like done who can hit the catcher hard I think that it was right to send him, even if it didn’t work this time.
Sorry, that’s “Dunn”, not “done”… I guess I’m thinking phoenetically…
Yeah, just to see how brave the catcher is and hope done knocks the ball out.
At least Arroyo made it through the line-up once.
Dunn flashes the leather. Knows Arroyo needs all the help he can get.
Ugh, 6.32 ERA…how much is going to make next year?
Is Grande the play-by-play man and Welsh the color man? Why then does George act like he is broadcasting for the History Channel?
Base paths just got a lot uglier with the Blake walk.
I could deal with the haircut in 2006 when he was pitching well…but I don’t feel like he can justify it anymore…I’d like to see a list of the worst “ERA to Contract Size” ratios in the league.
Although I’m pleased enough with the first three innings……..(knocking on wood)
Bronson will make about $1.5 million per each of the earned runs in that ERA.
I could deal with BA’s playboy/rocker image if he performed well on the mound. When he doesn’t then you question, right or wrong, his work ethic.
At times, BP sucks.
I forgot, isn’t he usually a league leader in “douple plays grounded into”?
It’s interesting that there isn’t a whole lot of difference between Laffey’s change-up and fastball yet he has been very effective this season for the Indians. Good thing since they will lose Sabathia after this year.
It seems BP has been much more profound at grounding into DP’s this year.
If I’m Mark Shapiro I am dealing Sabathia for as many good prospects I can get my hands on. There is no way Larry Dolan is coughing up the money to resign him. Dolan is tighter than Carl Linder and not nearly as wealthy.
Carl Willis would be another good candidate for Reds pitching coach.
Last season Pujols and Carlos Lee lead the majors in “grounded into douple plays” with 27, BP had 26. This season he has 10, but not a leader because looks like Derrek Lee is on pace to break the record.
Dunn has two “Hot Dog Play of the Game” plays so far in this game. Add his getting plunked two times.
Lee has probably had more opportunities to ground into DP’s than Phillips.
Did some guy from Toronto light a fire under Dunn?
Hopper sure didn’t look like he was running the burners down to 1B.
Nope, and I think he would have been on with an E if he had.
WOOO!!! We’re on the board. And Keppinger’s up, who I generally trust not to disappoint.
It’s nice to have that guy back!
EDDIE!!!
EE!
this is insane.
Speaking of guys it is great to have back. Eddie’s back and there is going to be trouble.
Three outs in the bottom of this inning and then come on rain!
NWS radar doesn’t show much at the moment.
I know the Indians offense is pretty weak but Bronson has been pretty shockingly good today. If he could do this a little more consistently.
One thing about the Indians and Reds shared spring raining complex is one doesn’t have to worry about a hurricane wiping it out like in Homestead, FL.
Anti-type Patterson AB for Hopper – 9 pitches.
What the heck, George!!! No “I think the park will hold it” comment. The ball was off the wall.
Hopefully Rick Bauer pitches another inning because he is usually good for giving up three runs per outing.
Sizemore, the lone offensive threat for the Indians, owns Arroyo today.
oops.
That was the “Hot Dog Play of the Game!!!”
In case Dusty need notification; Bronson is losing it.
Looks like Bronson curbed the partying before today’s start.
He was probably partying with his Red Sox buddies since they had an off day in New York the day before his last start in Toronto. He probably thought he could pitch drunk like his friend, David Wells!
Arroyo has very little stamina.
Is Kelly Shoppach just a bit PO’ed?
Bronson needs to strengthen his legs. He starts to lose it after about 85 pitches.
Hey 47, I wondered the same thing about Arroyo’s last start. That stuff is kept under wraps but wouldn’t surprise me if he was out partying Sunday night and Monday.
I’d be surprised if Bronson didn’t party at least a little. The Red Sox were playing at home.
Welke’s strike zone is all over the place.
I wonder if Bronson’s girlfriends have as much problem with his stamina?
3-run job would be sweet.
HOW SWEET IT IS!!!
“Done”!!!
Well, there’s your three runs per outing for Tick Bauer. Good call!
“Rick”
Dunn is a stud, but I’m not so sure that the Reds plan to resign him. Are there any elite power hitters eligible for free agency after the season? Jocketty/Castellini might be waiting to see who’s available before deciding on Dunn.
I think Pat Burell is, but I can’t imagine why the Reds would let Dunn (who is a sure thing if they want him) go in hopes of signing someone so similar.
Remember when Andy Marte was a #1 can’t-miss prospect? Boy, did he ever miss. Let that be a lesson, if the Braves are willing to trade a prospect, that prospect is not as good as he looks. Exhibit #2 would be Matt Belisle.
I really don’t pay attention to baseball outside of the Reds…so I’m wondering, do all teams have crappy relief pitchers that scare, frustrate, and disappoint them?
Yee-haw Brandon Philips!
I don’t care how well Utley hits, I’m going to be upset if Phillips gets passed over for Gold Glove this year.
Also, I remember something in 2006 about Arroyo leading the league in innings pitched and being a workhorse with a lot of endurance? Oh how things change…
George and Chris talking about who have to carry the load for the Reds to turn it around. Griffey’s name mentioned by them. My advice is don’t be holding your breath on Junior carrying much of a load.
Wow, Dusty has been brining in the high ERA relievers with a sizable lead. I like that idea, makes good sense.
I know he’s a future hall-of-famer, and hit 600 homeruns, but I still laugh out loud every time I see he’s going to start the All-Star Game. I don’t understand why an outfielder who can’t run and hits .230 would be an All-Star.
Try, try, try to understand
He’s a magic man, mama
He’s a magic man
Gary Majewski on to try to protect a six run lead.
It’s also nice of him to bring in Majewski because I’m sure it keeps the ratings up, I’m not comfortable closing gameday and working on my paper, even at 8-2 in the 8th.
I see the All-Star Game as Junior’s good bye. I really think he hangs it up at the end of this season.
see Gary Majewski on http://www.mulletsgalore.com
I hope he hangs it up at the end of this season…I really do love Junior’s demeanor and attitude, and it’s great that he came back to Cincinnati like he did, but if he keeps playing after this year, I feel like it will just amount to a smudge on his legacy.
I think the rain saves GM from further problems.
In keeping with nicknaming the relievers after Heart songs… How about Bray-acuda?
Dunn got ripped off for the “Hot Dog Play of the Game.”
Cute, Ben.
Those Wilson girls used to be some hot babes back in the 70’s.
Do the Indians fans yet realize how Shaprio/Wedge screwed up by trading Phillips?
I take it the fans went to their cars after that last downpour.
With some luck and some intensity, the Reds should go 7-0 on the home stand. Doing so would put them at .500 (45-45).
So, I guess we’re going to have a winning road-trip. It’s weird to think that we have 5 more wins this season at the halfway point than last year…I don’t remember feeling this outraged and hateful about our performance a year ago!
The Crappy Patterson Affair has enraged us to new levels of hostility. Dopey Baker has been a contributing factor as well.
I still can’t believe they changed the name of this ballpark to Progressive Field. How incredibly lame.
I think if Castellini and Jocketty would sit down during the All-Star break with Dunn (which means going fishing with him) that Dunn would sign an extension.
Buddy- especially after what Jacobs did for resurrecting the franchise. Dolan so overpaid for the team that he has to do everything he can to make money.
Well I guess they didnt have much choice. No wonder ballparks and arena’s are all named after corporations, according to Wiki, Progressive agreed to pay $57.6 million for the naming rights for 16 years…must be nice having that kind of money to blow
I’m glad there are others out there who want Dunn back…I feel worried more than ever this year that he’s going. Usually it’s just trade rumors and I’m keeping my fingers crossed, but this year it feels more serious.
I wonder if business goes up whenever you have a ballpark named after yourself…I still don’t even know what Progressive does.
also, Corey Patterson is playing, just so everyone knows.
Staples Center, Bank One, Petco, and on and on and on…it’s pretty sad really eh Jim?,
well at least GABP doesn’t sound so much like a corp. name.
one sure way to lose money would be to name a field after corey patterson.
Kevin, Progressive is an insurance company.
so much for Affeldt looking like good trade bait.
hahah, I know, I was just trying to make a point about how much of a waste “naming rights” seem to me.
Flashbacks from last year in late games
Choo on that!!!
right Kev gotcha….i agree…and then of course when the corps buy each other out…the park changes names Like in SF where every year it seems like its called something different.
Add Affeldt to the garbage list.
Reds win AGAIN!!!
Cleveland also has Quicken Arena (Locally know as the “Q”).
Affeldt should be a starter with that kind of stuff.
Wonder if Dumpy Baker will have the same line up against Pitt? I think they have primarily LHP’s which means possibly no Crappy Patterson
Lefties for the Pirates on Monday and Tuesday. Wednesday’s starter unknown. Leftie for the Nats on Thursday.