The Reds go up to the Bronx, win two of three, and all of a sudden we start thinking the Reds aren’t that bad. Then Bronson Arroyo goes out and stinks up the joint up in hockey land.
Aaron Harang and Roy Halladay in a nice little pitching matchup tonight. A win over Halladay would be very nice, and it would also be something to build on.
Discuss it here…and let’s start the discussion with answering the question of what’s wrong with Bronson Arroyo. He’s not this bad, is he?
Starting at 3B, Javier Valentin.
Junior batting clean-up.
Crappy Patterson starting in CF.
Jay Bruce rf
Adam Dunn lf
Brandon Phillips 2b
Ken Griffey Jr. dh
Joey Votto 1b
Jeff Keppinger ss
Corey Patterson cf
Javy Valentin 3b
David Ross c
Javy? At 3rd? What the hell is Dusty smoking?
Wow, the foolishness continues. Why not Votto lead off and Bruce 5th? Valentin at 3rd…oh boy!
Well, it worked so far???
Bruce strikes out, and Javy hasn’t had an opportunity yet. Just wait. I’m interested in how many errors he’ll make.
Wouldn’t make a little more sense to have Janish at ss and Keppinger at 3rd?
Looked like a bad call at 2B. Waiting for a good replay.
I think they cannot cope with Janish’s lack of offense any longer. I’m sure Brooke Jacoby has done everything he can to help PJ.
I think the are not going to play Janish due to his hitting woes and only 1 run last night. Hairston to be up tomorrow off DL.
The Toronto broadcast showed a replay. He was just barely out. Good call.
CP with a full count, I must be dreaming!!
But in the end…another out for Outterson
Hairston may be in route as we speak.
Why is every fly ball hit by a Red always treated as a blast when George Grande does play-by-play?
Halladay kept jamming him inside then finally got him to fly out on a pitch away. Patterson just isn’t driving the ball. He just makes contact. Cuts down on the K’s but results in even more outs. Is this the hitting philosophy now?
The Harang woes continue
Ball up but Crappy runs it down.
A. Phillips was picked off waivers by the Mets.
Bruuuce!!
Sinker didn’t sink enough and Bruce bangs out a double.
Another sinker down the middle and Dunn delivers with RISP.
Halliday must be off for Ross and Dunn to get hits.
Dunn likes that two hole. Let’s keep him there.
Too bad it took Crusty the fool half the season to figure it out.
Halladay keeps missing with the sinker/slider and now BP drives one in.
George overreacts to another fly ball. Geesh.
Griffey should have got more out that pitch. It’s the same pitch everyone else has been hitting.
If Crusty looked at stats, he would have seen that Dunn has been extremely successful in that place in the line-up.
Smart base running by the Reds? Wonders never cease.
All or Nothing Reds!
JK is pressing it seems. Weak protective swing.
Why is Harang suddenly throwing nothing but fastballs?
Nice, real nice…another pathetic game except this time is on the pitching side. What a mess
At least that was a curveball. Did Crappy give up on that ball by Rios?
Quick question: what is the Sunday BananaPhone call that people are occasionally referring to in the same breath as Adam From Milwaukee?
The thing about the missing horse?
Wonder if Harang is having minor back problems. He has had back issues in the past.
DA, I don’t know. I have been asking as well.
Dusty must be a proud papa. Crappy with a hit and a SB.
Was that the first bunt of Bruce’s professional career? I remember an attempt in his second or third game but I think this is the first time he has got one down.
Dunn just got on top of it slightly. Sinking hard shot.
That was quick, thank God!
Has anyone else noticed that both Cueto and Harang’s K’s have dropped off pace over the last 30 days or so?
JC had 7 K’s against the Yankees though.
Is it amazing that not a single ball has been hit to 3B? Is he some kind of repellant force?
Is nothing working for AH other than the fastball because 90% of his pitches tonight have been fastballs.
After an eight pitch AB his first time up, Crappy follows with two two-pitch AB’s. What is Crappys’s FB to GB ratio?
yes, Cueto had a great game against Yanks, I was just speaking in general lately. One thing is for sure Harang is not himself yet.
AH is definitely not 100% Harang. It is like he lost his other stuff so it fastball after fasrball.
I hope this is the last inning for Halladay. His Houdini escapes are getting real old. Who does he think he is? Darryl Thompson?
Make it a quick inning, AH.
Exactly…he’s no DT
Five fastballs. Four at 88 mph. One at 89 mph. He was in the low 90’s earlier in the game so he is running out of steam.
He just hit 90 again.
I guess D-Train is the nickname they are trying to hang on DT.
That AB sealed the deal on Harang’s night. He pitched an inning to Zaun.
Crap. Bray can’t close the door, and here comes Weathers.
I’ve seen this before.
Does Dusty realize that he’s got the DH this week, and double and triple-switches aren’t really necessary?
Funny, DA. He doesn’t realize it, does he?
Weathers gives up a hit, of course, and the tying run, of course.
Might have been an out, though, if ONCE AGAIN, David Ross could catch a stupid ball being thrown to him from the OF.
What kind of catch attempt was that by Ross? Maybe it took an AstroTurf bounce.
Ross is TERRIBLE fielding throws.
NEWSFLASH! David Weathers gives up a hit to the first batter, and a run scores.
NEWSFLASH AGAIN! Throw dropped by David Ross.
I can understand a tricky AstroTurf bounce but position your frickin’ body so you block it and maybe can grab a bounce off the chest.
If Ross isn’t going to catch a throw from the outfield, the least he could do is park his butt on top of the dish…someone call Mike Scioscia, he needs to learn to block the plate
I told you, I’ve seen the Weathers/Ross act before. I give it two thumbs down.
I hate Dusty Baker…Bray has ERA of 2.64 against Right Handers, and David Weathers 4.67…please explain why this man continues to manage in the Major Leagues…I say fire him and bring up Rick Sweet!
The Reds have hit Halladay fairly hard tonight but as usual Lady Luck flips them off.
Lady Luck would go unnoticed if it weren’t for Dusty the F&#&#@!!
Score five runs early against Halladay, with Harang on the mound…if the Reds can’t win games like this, they can’t win any.
Cito Gaston knows his job is to build the psyche of his team. I applaud him for recognizing what his job is.
Love the Toronto fans holding up VOTTO signs.
I love Votto’s bat more…a double there, runners on second and third with two outs.
At the plate: Kepp!
Votto! Now, can they bring them in…Go Kepp!!
Votto with his first Canadian hit!!! Congrats,Hoser!!!
I think they want to pitch to CP, they know he sux but DB doesn’t !!!
They’ll bring in a LHP and dumba$$ Dusty won’t pinch hit for his butt-bud! I’ll take bets!
Flyball 9 is my bet.
A pinch-hitter! It’s a glimmer!
Whoa!!! PHing for Crappy. Hopper bunting?
You lose, mhopp. Fortunately.
Thank God, I lose!!! If Hopper fails, it won’t happen again!!
1.31 ERA!
Ump feels bad for Hopper!
Hopper knows how to get on Dusty’s good side…he’s down to .220 heading for the sub .200 like CP!
Weathers back for the 7th, and he promptly gives up two hits on the first two pitches. I dislike David Weathers as much as any Red since Danny Graves.
So…why is Weathers still in the game?
Now it’s 3 hits on 3 pitches! Weathers sucks so bad….
Oh, that’s why. Apparently the Reds hadn’t given up their quota of hits yet, and Weathers is the fastest way to get there.
Wow. Three pitches, three hits? Sometimes you gotta just tip your cap to Weathers, you know?
Why in the hell is Burton not in and why did he take Bray out in a close game!! I am convinced that Dusty Baker is hanging with Pete Rose and does not want to win!
Oh, he’ll bring Burton and Cordero in when there is a large Reds lead instead of when there’s a close lead. It has to go back to the management!
load the bases, 1-2-3 double play…weathers had a plan all along
That was a pretty good trick, gotta admit. Gives the Reds a little momentum, even, if you go in for that.
Lady Luck takes a break from screwing the Reds.
Stormy was just trying to get Dusty to choke on one of those toothpicks…I like the idea!
I had already conceded the lead to the Jays. I would have bet a lot of money that Weathers would have given up some runs, and I would have lost.
Nice hit for Janish.
I am just checking in, I knew we were going to have comments about Weathers, Ross, Triple switches in American league parks, etc. But I want to comment on the end of the inning: After the broken bat double play, did anyone else notice that hardly anyone in the Reds dugout moved? They just seem so lifeless right now.
Maybe it was disbelief that held them motionless.
Hit one for JP, Adam Dunn.
Remember when Reggie Jackson hit a homer in Oakland and shook his fist at Charlie Finley?
Bruce below .300, the morale is in the dumps, need a new manager with some fire
First pitch out, way to go!!
Dunn has an eight-pitch AB followed by Phillips grounding out on the first pitch. Sigh.
Anyone else pick up overtones to that Quiznos commercial?
Burton not exactly pounding the strike zone here.
Georgia has a little something cooking in the bottom of the 9th at the CWS…down 6-1 w/ 2 on and no out.
Burton gets the job done, too bad Crusty the clown didn’t bring him in with the lead like a smart manager would.
The good news is that we have seen the last of Sorry Outterson for this game. Despite Dusty’s affinity for him, he can not put him in the game to get another out.
Fresno State just won the CWS. Unbelievable. What a cinderella story.
Ryan being deceptively fast.
Speaking of the Quizno’s commercial: Is it really necessary to put on the screen when the lady is eating the $5 bill “Dramatization, do not attempt”? If you are dumb enough to do it, you don’t understand what a ‘dramatization’ is. (And, yes, Jim…I diverted the Quizno’s comment. Just the preach in me, I guess)
At least Votto gets a 9 pitch out rather than a 1 pitch out like BP
Someone needs to point out to Dusty that you CAN bring in your closer when it is a tie game and you are the home team. At least Toronto knows enough to that.
I like Keppinger and Votto together in the lineup. They both are decent at working the opposing pitcher unlike most the Reds.
In a litigation happy world, I fully understand the disclaimer’s necessity.
No problem, preach. I just wondered if it was as obvious as I thought. I don’t expect or desire any further insight to it.
The hopelessness of being a Reds fan – one figures we are destined to lose this game.
Blue Jays with no walkoff wins on the year…what’s the chances the Reds keep it that way?
Lawyers, Preach.
I have had it with Dave Weathers. Completely had it. Oh, and Dave Ross is just pathetic.
Haven’t scored since the third.
Use your closer in the ninth in a tie game. Huh. What a novel concept. I bet if if goes on much longer we will see the long man pitch. Gee, what CRAZY strategy. What do you think, Dusty?
CeeKer, I can’t believe you left Dunn off that list after his last AB.
Had the opportunities though.
Ross is pathetic. Unfortunately Bako is even more pathetic.
In other words Preach, where’s Josh Fogg?
This team has had an effective roster about 3 days this season. (And that’s with the caveat that they still had 3 catchers, which I’ve just come to accept as a given.)
George Grande: “It’s going to stay in the park.”
Ya’ think? Dunn was almost in the infield when he caught it. Does GG have no depth perception?
Anybody else watch the CWS game? I don’t know that I’ve seen a guy hit the ball harder in 4 ABs than that Detwiler kid.
I don’t know, Jim, but GG is ROCKING that Sipowitz tonight.
Terrible throw by Ross.
Scott Rolen. Just who we want to see.
Good work by Burton.
Even though Burton without his best stuff does the job, Stormy Weathers and Lincoln couldn’t do it with their good stuff!
I still can’t believe we were up 5-0 on Halladay and blew it.
Did you see how upset Wells was with his popout? It was just like when he found out his parents named him ‘Vernon”.
Give NH a chance to steal then bunt to get him to 3B.
Hopper on! Uh on, bunt please!?!?!
I went to school with a kid named Vernon but it was his last name.
If I were a Blue Jay fan, I’d be yelling and screaming right now. You are simply foolish to walk a batter who is TRYING to bunt and give you a free out.
Looks like Wolf is competing with Stormy Weathers, we’ll see but I like his idea!
Ross does something right!
Just a deep fly ball, JB.
Carlson has one nasty looking ERA and opponent BA.
NH is no CP, otherwise Dusty would have had him steal 2nd and be bunted to 3rd.
Is “Vernon” any worse than “Cito”? Methinks not.
Cito is turning the wheels trying to guide his team out of this pickle. If the pitcher coming in can throw above 93mph, Junior’s going to have a tough time.
I’m a little jealous of the Zaun/Barajas platoon. I have catcher envy. A common malady for Reds fans.
Did I say Junior? Nevermind, it’s Jay Bruce.
RBI for Bruce!
Bruce hasn’t looked real comfortable at the plate lately, but he did a good job here. Nice two strike swing to drive in that run.
Bruce gets the job done when in a clutch situation, good enough we hope.
I am leaning toward ridding the team of Dunn, he really can’t hit good pitchers
Cordero is in it to win it!
Let’s go, Coco.
The Reds need the Jays pitching coach, Brad Arnsberg. Toronto has some nice pitching.
Toronto has an impressive bullpen.
C’mon Cordero. Nail it down.
CooooooooooooooooooCooooooooooooooooooo.
I am leaning toward ridding the team of Dunn, he really can’t hit good pitchers.
If he can hit bad pitchers then we better keep him because the rest of the team cannot.
“Really, a great effort by David Weathers….”
So says George Grande.
And this one belongs to the Reds….
Whew!!!
That was terribly undramatic.
Glad this ended well.
The Reds win (on the road)!
The American League sucks.
Chris Welsh: “They were really demoralized after last night’s game.”
Get over it, Reds. Good teams only take what is constructive from a game.
Whew, they win it…this George Grande must be a real fool.
this George Grande must be a real fool.
That’s an understatement. George is surreal.
That was terribly undramatic.
Graves or Weathers could still be closing. That would make some drama for you.
Toronto’s bullpen is good, but still no walkoff wins. Something wrong there. Game winning RBI for JB !!!
You have to have some offense to have much in the way of walk-off wins. Despite what we have seen the past two nights, the Jays offense has been pretty dismal.
Wonder if Toronto would be interested in Crappy Patterson?
If they didn’t have Scott Rolen they would probably want Javier Valentin to play 3B.
What keeps Weathers employed? Is he someone’s nephew? Or does he have incriminating photos of someone in charge?
Given Harang’s struggles since the relief outing in SD, why was he left in for 118 pitches after struggling through 5 last night?
He must not be hurting Greg, I’d say just because he wanted to get the last out of the inning but it took a million pitches just to get the 2nd out. I was just glad at the idea that he must not be hurting, given a history of back problems