Hate to ruin the party, but Patterson is back in the line-up in center batting eighth. Of course, Janish the SS is batting seconde. Hopper on the bench again.
I hope he pitches well, don’t know if he will. But thank god we got Norris Hopper off the DL so he can sit on the bench because Corey Patterson is so much friggin’ better.
The CP infatuation continues. As for DT … I’d be happy with 5 innings of 2-3 runs. Anything better and I will be thrilled. My one concern is him getting hammered. More talented pitchers have been permanently scarred by decisions like this. Lets hope this isnt one of those.
Yep, I’m glad I’m at work as I fully expect the Reds to get shut out given Patterson is in vs. Hopper and Janish is batting 2nd. It’s no wonder this team can’t score runs and win…the morale must be on the floor know the manager contuously makes stupid decisions. Let’s hope D.T. can pitch well since he can’t allow more than a run if he wants to win.
So the Yankees have a guy making his first big-league start today, too. Another factor working against the Reds, since they never hit against the newly minted big-leaguers.
Just checked the Reds schedule to see if Thompson would have a start against the Nats next month. He won’t, which is a shame. It would be great to see him shut them down just to stick it to Bowden.
If CP goes 0for4 this game he’ll be at .189 and exactly .100 below Norris Hopper…CP must be really good at something but it sure isn’t baseball…only Dusty knows that secret.
Dusty would never get away with starting CP in New York. The press would absolutely crucify him! It’s so idiotic that he keeps putting him in the lineup…sigh
Lesson to Homer Bailey - Fix your mechanics so you get the “hop” on your fastball that DT has. It’s all about movement especially if you can throw both the two and four seamer.
Here’s a thought - Why don’t the Reds hire a “pitching specialist” to work with an enigma like a Bailey. Imagine someone like a Mazzone working one-on-one with him or any of the Reds problem pitchers.
I wonder if Jacoby conferences with his hitters (or swingers, based on your perspective) before each game to discuss how to approach hitting against the opposing pitcher? Nah, probably not.
It’s been slightly better, but this is reminding me of Homer Bailey’s major-league debut last year. Announcers clamoring to bring the kid up, gets the call against a good offense, gives up too many walks and gets into jams but skates through somehow, and throws a metric ton of pitches to just barely get through 5.
Redilculous, this kid is pitching a good game and again getting no run support…I hate Dusty Baker…he is ruining any chance of the Reds scoring by playing his fantasy man Outterson and others.
Quick question, and this is an honest question: have Marty, Thom, Jeff, George, or Chris made any mention of the whole Dunn-Ricciardi dust-up? Or are they saving that for the first game in Toronto?
George and Chris were just talking about it. George said JP would probably walk out on the field to apologize to Dunn. Everyone is a freakin’ Smurf is GG’s eyes.
Was curious if they mentioned it on tv, as I don’t think I’ve heard anything on the radio about it. Though I’m usually late to tune into the games these days.
Well, if that’s the end of the day for Thompson, good job - though it could easily have gone the other way with all the runners allowed. Hope for an easier time out next start, now that he’s gotten the debut out of the way.
Thursday upon hearing the part of JP’s quote about Dunn’s stats (.240 hitter…) Marty says sort of snidely “did he say anything inaccurate?” And people wonder why Cincinnati doesn’t appreciate Dunn…
This 31-year-old rookie Geise, making his first major-league start, in Yankee Stadium, has only had to make 62 pitches through 6 shutout innings. Bull.
Re Ron: It’s amazing how bad the Reds hitters are when you look at who they have too. It takes a special kind of talent to render them completely useless like Baker and Jacoby have managed to do.
Sadly most of what JP said about Dunn is true. Last weekend after the Saturday afternoon game against the Red Sox, Dunn was at the Brooks & Dunn concert at Riverbend getting drunk when he had a 1 o’clock game the next afternoon. He went 0-4 with 2 K’s…
We have Patterson. Bako, Junior, and Baker to complain about and Marty picks Dunn to run on. Dunn must have pulled a practical joke on him at some time in the past that Marty has never forgiven him for. We all know how well MB takes a joke.
I’m listening to Marty and Brantley online. Is Brantley always this unenthusiastic? On EE’s hit, his tone made it sound like it was going to be an out. That was a huge hit!
My brother does a really good impression of Brantley. It’s in the same vein as Will Ferrell’s G.W. Bush impression, in that it doesn’t really sound much like him, but the tone is just spot-on funny. You just drawl, “welllll, the thing about baseballllll is buhhhh-duh-buh-bah-buh-bah-buh-buhhhhh.”
Darn I missed it, Corey Patterson gets a hit and drives in runs!! Sorry Norris Hopper but you’ll be on the bench for the rest of the year even if you are in the running for the batting title
“The Trade” still stinks, and I lost a lot of respect for Chris Welch trying to spin it like it was a good deal for the Reds. Two lame middle relievers and a pitching prospect for two young starting position players with an .800 OPS at the time of deal is stupid is as stupid does. No matter what these players ever do, it was a bad trade since Krivsky didn’t get comparable value at the time of the deal.
Tom, the future value is what what the trade is worth…Griffey for instance may have a lot of current trade value but certainly he won’t have any in 3-4 years…at least not as a player.
Can anyone else figure out what Burton is doing in the game right now. This is the time you use Majewski or Lincoln, Dusty. I can’t wait until the 8th inning when Burton is either unavailable or dead armed tomorrow.
Ben - On the radio they were speculating that Burton started warming up before it was 6-0, so they decided to go ahead and use him. I’m not saying that they should have, but it’s an explanation of some sort.
Griffey has very little trade value at this point … most scouts feel he cant get around on good fastballs anymore … I cant see us getting anything in return for him unless we are willing to swallow most of his ‘08 salary as as agree to pay his $4M’09 buy out … even then it wont be more than a mid level wanna be prospect
I think if you look at the value of the players today, the players we got are more valuable than the ones we gave up. That wasn’t always the case, though, and we’ll see how long it lasts. But Bray and Thompson are valuable, they’re young, and even Majewski has been useful recently.
Juan Duran, the $3 million 16-year-old, went 2-for-4 with two triples and a walk for the Reds team in the Dominican Summer League. He’s hitting .417 with .588 on-base. In 13 of his 15 plate appearances have ended in a hit, walk or strikeout.
Comment from MaxRedleg on Fay’s blog referring to the Krivsky hiring by the Mets:
Special Assistant to the GM is that not like George Castanza was for the NYY in the Seinfeld Show?
DT has some pretty good stuff but he must become more pitch efficient the next time out against the Indians. I think he will be going against C.C. Sabathia.
I was listening to Sporting News Radio this afternoon (missed part of the game because of the wife) and they had some interesting things to say about the Reds. They said that the Reds have a lot of good young players-Bruce, Votto, Cueto, Volquez, Thompson were mentioned-but they have the worst manager for young players in Dusty Baker, a guy who does not like young players. They also said that some managers fill out their line-up based on production and others on loyalty and Dusty was definitely a loyalty guy (can you say Corey Patterson). They did say he was a good fit in Cincinnati in the fact there were no expectations and he does better when there is little to no expectation, but as the Reds get better with the young players that expectations will increase and that is where he struggles. Thought it was interesting.
Tom-The trade was a good one. The Reds gave up two useless players in Kearns in Lopez. I wouldn’t want either one of them.
I find it hilarious that people on this board rip Marty B for being “negative” where there is not a more negative group than the people on this board. Y City Jim being the leader in the clubhouse. Marty B tells it like it is and is right 99 percent of the time.
I want to keep Dunn, but his lack of production in those situations (runner on third and less than two outs) can be very annoying.
for a guy making his major league debut at Yankee stadium, he didn’t pitch poorly. What stood out most to me was how he would be very aggressive in getting to two strikes and then try to “finesse” his way to a strike out. He loosened up and lost a little control of his pitches.
I don’t think it’s a problem that can’t be fixed and I’m pretty excited about his and the Reds future with all of these young arms
That story seems quite accurate about Dusty Baker and answers a lot of questions we have on his rationale. No matter, he is a terrible manager for this current team. It still does not answer why you put a reliever in that has a 5.00+ ERA in a close game when you have a rested reliever at a 2.50 ERA in the pen? These are foolish decisions that he should answer to his superior manager and owner for. If it were my money, I’d eat Dusty’s contract and bring McKannon back (spelling?). Bottom line from Castalinni’s standpoint looking at Dusty Baker: Loyalty Does not win games! He fired Krivsky for less so I can’t see why Dusty should be around too many years at this rate.
Bottom line from Castalinni’s standpoint looking at Dusty Baker: Loyalty Does not win games! He fired Krivsky for less so I can’t see why Dusty should be around too many years at this rate.
Alright Keppinger in the line up!! Oh, maybe not since Dusty is the manager he’ll probably have a .195 batter instead so he can be “loyal” never mind the team has about the worst average with RISP.
Like Johnny Cueto before him, I think Daryl Thompson just flew by Homer Bailey on the Reds depth chart. I would not at all be suprised if Homer’s dealt sometime before spring training. It might be a good move for both him and the Reds.
The thing is if you fix Bailey’s mechanical flaws you have someone as awesome as the others. Imagine Harang plus four young guns. Plug the offensive holes mainly at catcher and right field and it looks pretty good.
I’d give Bailey until the end of the season, then trade. I just can’t see keeping him and agree with Glenn. Hopefully he is not scarred for good. You just never know, some players are over rated and some are under rated. The Reds need a player who is clutch and hits for average with a little pop so that’s what I’d get. Maybe Textiera (spelling?) at 1b and Votto in the OF?
Trade Bailey? For what? I’m not sure it is even mechanical. I was at the game he started in Philly LAST YEAR and he wasn’t breaking 87 on the gun. Something is wrong, just not sure it is mechanical.
June 21st, 2008 at 12:01 pm
Better than Homer Bailey or Josh Fogg would have.
June 21st, 2008 at 12:11 pm
Hate to ruin the party, but Patterson is back in the line-up in center batting eighth. Of course, Janish the SS is batting seconde. Hopper on the bench again.
June 21st, 2008 at 12:15 pm
I hope he pitches well, don’t know if he will. But thank god we got Norris Hopper off the DL so he can sit on the bench because Corey Patterson is so much friggin’ better.
June 21st, 2008 at 12:18 pm
The CP infatuation continues. As for DT … I’d be happy with 5 innings of 2-3 runs. Anything better and I will be thrilled. My one concern is him getting hammered. More talented pitchers have been permanently scarred by decisions like this. Lets hope this isnt one of those.
June 21st, 2008 at 12:27 pm
Reds line-up
Jay Bruce rf
Paul Janish ss
Ken Griffey dh
Brandon Phillips 2b
Joey Votto 1b
Adam Dunn lf
Edwin Encarnacion 3b
Corey Patterson cf
Paul Bako c
June 21st, 2008 at 12:46 pm
Reason for playing BP at SS - He would bat 2nd versus Janish.
June 21st, 2008 at 1:02 pm
George said the Reds are making their final “regular season” trip to Yankee Stadium. Hmmm. Is George prophesying a Reds-Yankees World Series?
June 21st, 2008 at 1:02 pm
Yep, I’m glad I’m at work as I fully expect the Reds to get shut out given Patterson is in vs. Hopper and Janish is batting 2nd. It’s no wonder this team can’t score runs and win…the morale must be on the floor know the manager contuously makes stupid decisions. Let’s hope D.T. can pitch well since he can’t allow more than a run if he wants to win.
June 21st, 2008 at 1:03 pm
So the Yankees have a guy making his first big-league start today, too. Another factor working against the Reds, since they never hit against the newly minted big-leaguers.
June 21st, 2008 at 1:09 pm
31-year-old rookie for the Yankees.
How old was Dennis Quaid when he made his MLB debut?
June 21st, 2008 at 1:20 pm
Very assertive defensive play by Thompson. That’s what I like to see.
June 21st, 2008 at 1:23 pm
21 pitch 1st inning … not surprising against a patient team like the yanks and a kids first start … he’ll be lucky to make it to the 6th at that rate.
June 21st, 2008 at 1:24 pm
Pretty much all fastballs by both guys so far.
June 21st, 2008 at 1:30 pm
Maybe the next time through the line-up we tag some hard hits together.
June 21st, 2008 at 1:38 pm
Don’t give the Yankees extra outs.
June 21st, 2008 at 1:39 pm
K would be big.
June 21st, 2008 at 1:41 pm
June 21st, 2008 at 1:41 pm
Way, way too many pitches being thrown.
June 21st, 2008 at 1:41 pm
Oh boy … bases loaded … not what ya want to see Daryl have to deal with early in the game
June 21st, 2008 at 1:42 pm
Oh boy, that’ll help…Dick Pole to the mound!?!?!
June 21st, 2008 at 1:43 pm
Don’t worry, Corey Outterson is up first in the next inning thanks to Dusty Dip $..hit :razz:
June 21st, 2008 at 1:44 pm
Saweet!
June 21st, 2008 at 1:45 pm
Just checked the Reds schedule to see if Thompson would have a start against the Nats next month. He won’t, which is a shame. It would be great to see him shut them down just to stick it to Bowden.
June 21st, 2008 at 1:46 pm
AMAZING COMEBACK!!!
June 21st, 2008 at 1:46 pm
Yes!!! great come back
June 21st, 2008 at 1:46 pm
Wow. What a job to get out of that jam. That’s amazing.
June 21st, 2008 at 1:47 pm
Interesting comment about Bako just discovering that Thompson has confidence in the change-up. Didn’t these two conference before the game?
June 21st, 2008 at 1:47 pm
Great comeback, and against the Yanks…I feel the breeze of a sweep!
June 21st, 2008 at 1:50 pm
I’m so f’ing tired of Corey Patterson starting! It’s a complete travesty that Hopper isn’t in there instead…
June 21st, 2008 at 1:51 pm
If CP goes 0for4 this game he’ll be at .189 and exactly .100 below Norris Hopper…CP must be really good at something but it sure isn’t baseball…only Dusty knows that secret.
June 21st, 2008 at 1:51 pm
Looking at CP’s stance. It doesn’t look like he is too far from the plate. He just can’t hit.
June 21st, 2008 at 1:52 pm
Corey “Baker’s-son” pops up again. What a shocker.
June 21st, 2008 at 1:52 pm
Why would anyone want to hit on this team? CP doesn’t and he gets to play every day.
June 21st, 2008 at 1:53 pm
Dusty would never get away with starting CP in New York. The press would absolutely crucify him! It’s so idiotic that he keeps putting him in the lineup…sigh
June 21st, 2008 at 1:54 pm
Dusty’s favorite song must be “Stand by your Man.”
June 21st, 2008 at 1:56 pm
Don’t go there again, DT.
June 21st, 2008 at 1:56 pm
Needs to cut down on those walks, but he’s really not pitching badly.
June 21st, 2008 at 1:58 pm
Yeah, those walks are gonna haunt him before too long
June 21st, 2008 at 1:59 pm
Just too many pitches, which leads to more talking from George Grande.
June 21st, 2008 at 2:01 pm
Lesson to Homer Bailey - Fix your mechanics so you get the “hop” on your fastball that DT has. It’s all about movement especially if you can throw both the two and four seamer.
June 21st, 2008 at 2:04 pm
Here’s a thought - Why don’t the Reds hire a “pitching specialist” to work with an enigma like a Bailey. Imagine someone like a Mazzone working one-on-one with him or any of the Reds problem pitchers.
Yet again another AMAZING escape by DT.
June 21st, 2008 at 2:04 pm
Im liken me some DT … kid has guts and is not scared …
June 21st, 2008 at 2:05 pm
Heck, if I were Bailey I might be hiring my own personal coach to fix me.
June 21st, 2008 at 2:07 pm
Why is Janish batting second? Oh, yeah. He’s the SS.
June 21st, 2008 at 2:07 pm
Hit something hard, Junior.
June 21st, 2008 at 2:08 pm
For pitys sake. This is baseball not golf.
June 21st, 2008 at 2:10 pm
good hustle by BP, Votto is our hottest hitter right now too, let’s get a lead now
June 21st, 2008 at 2:11 pm
I wonder if Jacoby conferences with his hitters (or swingers, based on your perspective) before each game to discuss how to approach hitting against the opposing pitcher? Nah, probably not.
June 21st, 2008 at 2:14 pm
looks like I spoke too soon
June 21st, 2008 at 2:15 pm
How can line-up with Janish, Junior, Patterson, and Bako be expected to score?
June 21st, 2008 at 2:20 pm
I’m glad that Clint Hurdle is going to be the NL manager for this year’s All-Star Game.
June 21st, 2008 at 2:26 pm
It’s been slightly better, but this is reminding me of Homer Bailey’s major-league debut last year. Announcers clamoring to bring the kid up, gets the call against a good offense, gives up too many walks and gets into jams but skates through somehow, and throws a metric ton of pitches to just barely get through 5.
June 21st, 2008 at 2:28 pm
Redilculous, this kid is pitching a good game and again getting no run support…I hate Dusty Baker…he is ruining any chance of the Reds scoring by playing his fantasy man Outterson and others.
June 21st, 2008 at 2:28 pm
There’s certainly room for improvement. Just keep Dick Pole away from him.
June 21st, 2008 at 2:29 pm
Fun Corey Patterson Fact: in the last 28 days, he has 4 hits: 3 singles and a solo homer
June 21st, 2008 at 2:31 pm
Quick question, and this is an honest question: have Marty, Thom, Jeff, George, or Chris made any mention of the whole Dunn-Ricciardi dust-up? Or are they saving that for the first game in Toronto?
June 21st, 2008 at 2:32 pm
George and Chris were just talking about it. George said JP would probably walk out on the field to apologize to Dunn. Everyone is a freakin’ Smurf is GG’s eyes.
June 21st, 2008 at 2:33 pm
They just talked about it a little bit last inning
June 21st, 2008 at 2:34 pm
Regarding CP, it could be worse…Dusty also wanted this guy:
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=7133
June 21st, 2008 at 2:36 pm
Was curious if they mentioned it on tv, as I don’t think I’ve heard anything on the radio about it. Though I’m usually late to tune into the games these days.
June 21st, 2008 at 2:38 pm
Thompson has a nice quick move to 1B.
Beautiful play by our Amish SS.
June 21st, 2008 at 2:39 pm
Alright time to score some runs!!
June 21st, 2008 at 2:39 pm
Well, if that’s the end of the day for Thompson, good job - though it could easily have gone the other way with all the runners allowed. Hope for an easier time out next start, now that he’s gotten the debut out of the way.
June 21st, 2008 at 2:40 pm
Thursday upon hearing the part of JP’s quote about Dunn’s stats (.240 hitter…) Marty says sort of snidely “did he say anything inaccurate?” And people wonder why Cincinnati doesn’t appreciate Dunn…
June 21st, 2008 at 2:40 pm
96 pitches for Thompson. I hope the bullpen is ready to continue the shutout.
June 21st, 2008 at 2:41 pm
Bako is so incredibly horrible.
June 21st, 2008 at 2:42 pm
2 hits total through 5+ innings is also incredibly horrible.
June 21st, 2008 at 2:42 pm
This 31-year-old rookie Geise, making his first major-league start, in Yankee Stadium, has only had to make 62 pitches through 6 shutout innings. Bull.
June 21st, 2008 at 2:43 pm
Has Dunn ever told Marty to kiss his a**?
June 21st, 2008 at 2:44 pm
The Baker-Jacoby group has taken any inkling of patience away from this offense.
June 21st, 2008 at 2:45 pm
Another weak weak effort by the offense … how many more batting coaches can we go through until we find one that can actually coach?
June 21st, 2008 at 2:46 pm
To be fair, Geise had already pitched 7 and 1/3 innings this year before this start. :roll:
June 21st, 2008 at 2:47 pm
Re Ron: It’s amazing how bad the Reds hitters are when you look at who they have too. It takes a special kind of talent to render them completely useless like Baker and Jacoby have managed to do.
June 21st, 2008 at 2:47 pm
Sadly most of what JP said about Dunn is true. Last weekend after the Saturday afternoon game against the Red Sox, Dunn was at the Brooks & Dunn concert at Riverbend getting drunk when he had a 1 o’clock game the next afternoon. He went 0-4 with 2 K’s…
June 21st, 2008 at 2:47 pm
We have Patterson. Bako, Junior, and Baker to complain about and Marty picks Dunn to run on. Dunn must have pulled a practical joke on him at some time in the past that Marty has never forgiven him for. We all know how well MB takes a joke.
June 21st, 2008 at 2:49 pm
Define getting drunk.
Helluva grab by EE!!!
June 21st, 2008 at 2:50 pm
Drink some youth serum, Junior.
June 21st, 2008 at 2:51 pm
Pounding beer after beer
June 21st, 2008 at 2:53 pm
Sort of like a Ryan Freel?
June 21st, 2008 at 2:54 pm
A Hit + an Error = A Threat!
June 21st, 2008 at 2:56 pm
More sloppy defense on the part of the Yankees. Take advantage, Dunn!
June 21st, 2008 at 2:56 pm
C’mon Dunn.
June 21st, 2008 at 2:57 pm
Add Johnny “Amaraz” to the growing list of names that Grande routinely mispronounces.
June 21st, 2008 at 2:59 pm
Boy, Dunn has been really terrible lately.
June 21st, 2008 at 2:59 pm
Dusty getting fired up.
June 21st, 2008 at 2:59 pm
Dunn looked completely baffled.
June 21st, 2008 at 3:00 pm
Marty on Dunn after he struck out:
“You can’t hide him in the batting order, you cannot.”
Does Dunn even acknowledge him when they see each other?
June 21st, 2008 at 3:00 pm
EDDIE DELIVERS!!!
June 21st, 2008 at 3:00 pm
Yes! A run!
June 21st, 2008 at 3:01 pm
Who’s not clutch, cowboy?
June 21st, 2008 at 3:02 pm
Thank goodness. If we hadnt scored there Marty would have spent the rest of the game raggin on Dunn
June 21st, 2008 at 3:02 pm
That’s three times THIS WEEK that Dunn has struck out with runners on 2nd & 3rd and less than 2 outs. Keep defending him, stat mongers!
June 21st, 2008 at 3:02 pm
And all they had to do was walk Edwin to face Patterson instead. Oh well, Girardi - it’s a learning process.
June 21st, 2008 at 3:03 pm
I’m listening to Marty and Brantley online. Is Brantley always this unenthusiastic? On EE’s hit, his tone made it sound like it was going to be an out. That was a huge hit!
June 21st, 2008 at 3:05 pm
What alternate universe is Yankee Stadium located in? Because these Reds look good.
June 21st, 2008 at 3:05 pm
CP SHOCKER!!!
June 21st, 2008 at 3:05 pm
Wow, that will put CP in the starting lineup for the rest of the year
June 21st, 2008 at 3:06 pm
I don’t think I’ve ever bemoaned a Reds homerun until now…he’ll be leading off now for at least the next 2 weeks!
June 21st, 2008 at 3:07 pm
I still would describe this offense as “looking good” but I’ll take the results.
June 21st, 2008 at 3:07 pm
Congrats Patterson. There’s your hit for the week.
I’ve got to head out, off to New York City to watch the Reds go for the sweep (I hope?) tomorrow! Have a good afternoon all.
June 21st, 2008 at 3:07 pm
Brantley is about as exciting as watching rocks decompose …
June 21st, 2008 at 3:08 pm
WAY TO GO PATTERSON!! We never doubted you your talents. Good luck with your next 500 homeruns on the way to cashing your ticket to the hall of fame.
June 21st, 2008 at 3:09 pm
My brother does a really good impression of Brantley. It’s in the same vein as Will Ferrell’s G.W. Bush impression, in that it doesn’t really sound much like him, but the tone is just spot-on funny. You just drawl, “welllll, the thing about baseballllll is buhhhh-duh-buh-bah-buh-bah-buh-buhhhhh.”
June 21st, 2008 at 3:10 pm
Enjoy, CeeKer!!!
June 21st, 2008 at 3:11 pm
Darn I missed it, Corey Patterson gets a hit and drives in runs!! Sorry Norris Hopper but you’ll be on the bench for the rest of the year even if you are in the running for the batting title
June 21st, 2008 at 3:11 pm
This is kinda a gratifying moment for Krisky. The 2 of the main pieces of “the trade” are pitching a shutout at Yankee Stadium.
June 21st, 2008 at 3:14 pm
Does that mean we’re going to see Majewski as well?
June 21st, 2008 at 3:15 pm
Yikes, here comes Stormy … if he has to face Arod with runners on, this lead could be gone quick
June 21st, 2008 at 3:16 pm
Someone needs to tell Bray his sideburns are not doing the job.
Seriously they look ridiculous.
June 21st, 2008 at 3:17 pm
Please don’t screw this up, DW.
June 21st, 2008 at 3:19 pm
2 down, one to go
June 21st, 2008 at 3:20 pm
It’s always nice when MLBers don’t know how many outs there are.
:roll:
June 21st, 2008 at 3:21 pm
WOW!!! Houdini never had escapes like we have seen today.
June 21st, 2008 at 3:21 pm
good job, Arod leads off the 8th with the bases empty … that should put Coco on the mound in the 9th against the bottom of the order
June 21st, 2008 at 3:22 pm
Krivsky has been hired by the Mets as a special assistant (scout) to GM Omar Minaya
June 21st, 2008 at 3:26 pm
What’s Hatcher’s job? Base running?
June 21st, 2008 at 3:26 pm
“The Trade” still stinks, and I lost a lot of respect for Chris Welch trying to spin it like it was a good deal for the Reds. Two lame middle relievers and a pitching prospect for two young starting position players with an .800 OPS at the time of deal is stupid is as stupid does. No matter what these players ever do, it was a bad trade since Krivsky didn’t get comparable value at the time of the deal.
June 21st, 2008 at 3:33 pm
ALRIGHT!!! TWO MORE THANKS TO BP!
June 21st, 2008 at 3:37 pm
The trade wasn’t that bad.
June 21st, 2008 at 3:42 pm
I don’t know what Krivsky knew and what he didn’t know at the time, but the trade is starting to look pretty good.
June 21st, 2008 at 3:46 pm
Tom, the future value is what what the trade is worth…Griffey for instance may have a lot of current trade value but certainly he won’t have any in 3-4 years…at least not as a player.
June 21st, 2008 at 3:46 pm
I take it that Dusty isn’t known for stressing fundamentals.
June 21st, 2008 at 3:46 pm
Can anyone else figure out what Burton is doing in the game right now. This is the time you use Majewski or Lincoln, Dusty. I can’t wait until the 8th inning when Burton is either unavailable or dead armed tomorrow.
June 21st, 2008 at 3:49 pm
Ben - On the radio they were speculating that Burton started warming up before it was 6-0, so they decided to go ahead and use him. I’m not saying that they should have, but it’s an explanation of some sort.
June 21st, 2008 at 3:49 pm
The Kearns-Lopez deal might be best described as lame.
This is a bad deal.
June 21st, 2008 at 3:51 pm
Griffey has very little trade value at this point … most scouts feel he cant get around on good fastballs anymore … I cant see us getting anything in return for him unless we are willing to swallow most of his ‘08 salary as as agree to pay his $4M’09 buy out … even then it wont be more than a mid level wanna be prospect
June 21st, 2008 at 3:53 pm
When is the last time Junior actually hit a ball hard?
June 21st, 2008 at 3:53 pm
I think if you look at the value of the players today, the players we got are more valuable than the ones we gave up. That wasn’t always the case, though, and we’ll see how long it lasts. But Bray and Thompson are valuable, they’re young, and even Majewski has been useful recently.
June 21st, 2008 at 3:54 pm
Probably when he hit #600
June 21st, 2008 at 3:58 pm
From Fay’s blog:
Juan Duran, the $3 million 16-year-old, went 2-for-4 with two triples and a walk for the Reds team in the Dominican Summer League. He’s hitting .417 with .588 on-base. In 13 of his 15 plate appearances have ended in a hit, walk or strikeout.
June 21st, 2008 at 3:59 pm
Even #600 wasn’t exactly stung.
June 21st, 2008 at 4:00 pm
Not to mention #600 was a curveball …
June 21st, 2008 at 4:01 pm
Comment from MaxRedleg on Fay’s blog referring to the Krivsky hiring by the Mets:
Special Assistant to the GM is that not like George Castanza was for the NYY in the Seinfeld Show?
That is hilarious!!!
June 21st, 2008 at 4:05 pm
2 Wins, makes that miserable homestand hurt a little more as they could be close to .500
June 21st, 2008 at 4:13 pm
What does everyone think of D.T.? I was a little worried but I’d say he’s got a great head on his shoulders and definitely looks better than Bailey!
June 21st, 2008 at 4:56 pm
I think Thompson walks to many people and the Reds swing at too many pitches. The Yankees pitcher only threw 55 pitches through 5 innings.
June 21st, 2008 at 5:13 pm
DT has some pretty good stuff but he must become more pitch efficient the next time out against the Indians. I think he will be going against C.C. Sabathia.
June 21st, 2008 at 5:16 pm
I know Adam Dunn hits 40, scores, walks and drives in 100, but sometimes the big guy is just totally useless.
June 21st, 2008 at 5:28 pm
As is any player, some more than others such as CP.
June 21st, 2008 at 6:08 pm
I was listening to Sporting News Radio this afternoon (missed part of the game because of the wife) and they had some interesting things to say about the Reds. They said that the Reds have a lot of good young players-Bruce, Votto, Cueto, Volquez, Thompson were mentioned-but they have the worst manager for young players in Dusty Baker, a guy who does not like young players. They also said that some managers fill out their line-up based on production and others on loyalty and Dusty was definitely a loyalty guy (can you say Corey Patterson). They did say he was a good fit in Cincinnati in the fact there were no expectations and he does better when there is little to no expectation, but as the Reds get better with the young players that expectations will increase and that is where he struggles. Thought it was interesting.
Tom-The trade was a good one. The Reds gave up two useless players in Kearns in Lopez. I wouldn’t want either one of them.
I find it hilarious that people on this board rip Marty B for being “negative” where there is not a more negative group than the people on this board. Y City Jim being the leader in the clubhouse. Marty B tells it like it is and is right 99 percent of the time.
I want to keep Dunn, but his lack of production in those situations (runner on third and less than two outs) can be very annoying.
June 21st, 2008 at 6:20 pm
for a guy making his major league debut at Yankee stadium, he didn’t pitch poorly. What stood out most to me was how he would be very aggressive in getting to two strikes and then try to “finesse” his way to a strike out. He loosened up and lost a little control of his pitches.
I don’t think it’s a problem that can’t be fixed and I’m pretty excited about his and the Reds future with all of these young arms
June 21st, 2008 at 6:24 pm
KEEP DICK POLE AWAY FROM HIM!!!
June 21st, 2008 at 7:12 pm
fire dick pole
get a good coach to help these youngins and we’ll be fine
June 21st, 2008 at 7:35 pm
That story seems quite accurate about Dusty Baker and answers a lot of questions we have on his rationale. No matter, he is a terrible manager for this current team. It still does not answer why you put a reliever in that has a 5.00+ ERA in a close game when you have a rested reliever at a 2.50 ERA in the pen? These are foolish decisions that he should answer to his superior manager and owner for. If it were my money, I’d eat Dusty’s contract and bring McKannon back (spelling?). Bottom line from Castalinni’s standpoint looking at Dusty Baker: Loyalty Does not win games! He fired Krivsky for less so I can’t see why Dusty should be around too many years at this rate.
June 21st, 2008 at 7:36 pm
Bottom line from Castalinni’s standpoint looking at Dusty Baker: Loyalty Does not win games! He fired Krivsky for less so I can’t see why Dusty should be around too many years at this rate.
June 21st, 2008 at 7:48 pm
Hey, I hit one out, so will everyone quit ragging on me? That homer raised my average to .193.
I’m starting every game for the rest of the season for sure now.
June 21st, 2008 at 7:58 pm
You’re a poopyhead, Corey Patterson.
June 21st, 2008 at 8:25 pm
I guess on WLW Extra Innings today they said that Keppinger would be activated for tomorrow’s game. He was not in the Bats line-up today.
June 21st, 2008 at 8:40 pm
#140,
If you want to see some negativity, check out the message boards on reds.com. It’s absolutely absurd.
June 21st, 2008 at 10:12 pm
Alright Keppinger in the line up!! Oh, maybe not since Dusty is the manager he’ll probably have a .195 batter instead so he can be “loyal” never mind the team has about the worst average with RISP.
June 21st, 2008 at 10:50 pm
The Reds probably the team with the least number of RISP.
June 21st, 2008 at 11:05 pm
Like Johnny Cueto before him, I think Daryl Thompson just flew by Homer Bailey on the Reds depth chart. I would not at all be suprised if Homer’s dealt sometime before spring training. It might be a good move for both him and the Reds.
June 21st, 2008 at 11:19 pm
The thing is if you fix Bailey’s mechanical flaws you have someone as awesome as the others. Imagine Harang plus four young guns. Plug the offensive holes mainly at catcher and right field and it looks pretty good.
June 21st, 2008 at 11:39 pm
I’d give Bailey until the end of the season, then trade. I just can’t see keeping him and agree with Glenn. Hopefully he is not scarred for good. You just never know, some players are over rated and some are under rated. The Reds need a player who is clutch and hits for average with a little pop so that’s what I’d get. Maybe Textiera (spelling?) at 1b and Votto in the OF?
June 21st, 2008 at 11:59 pm
I hope I’m wrong and Bailey gets things figured out. I’m just wondering if that day is ever going to come.
June 22nd, 2008 at 9:11 am
Trade Bailey? For what? I’m not sure it is even mechanical. I was at the game he started in Philly LAST YEAR and he wasn’t breaking 87 on the gun. Something is wrong, just not sure it is mechanical.