Comments on: Jay Bruce Is Coming! http://redlegnation.com/2008/05/26/jay-bruce-is-coming/ A Cincinnati Reds Blog | Dishing out hot, creamy bowls of bloggy goodness Sat, 20 Mar 2010 14:45:33 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: RiverCity Redleg http://redlegnation.com/2008/05/26/jay-bruce-is-coming/#comment-1072435 RiverCity Redleg Tue, 27 May 2008 17:00:43 +0000 http://redlegnation.com/2008/05/26/jay-bruce-is-coming/#comment-1072435 My guess for tonight's lineup: Hairston Votto (or Bruce) Jr. Phillips Dunn EE Bruce (or Votto) Bako Cueto And Patterson will be traded for a swift kick in the nuts! My guess for tonight’s lineup:
Hairston
Votto (or Bruce)
Jr.
Phillips
Dunn
EE
Bruce (or Votto)
Bako
Cueto

And Patterson will be traded for a swift kick in the nuts!

]]> By: preach http://redlegnation.com/2008/05/26/jay-bruce-is-coming/#comment-1072418 preach Tue, 27 May 2008 16:40:47 +0000 http://redlegnation.com/2008/05/26/jay-bruce-is-coming/#comment-1072418 From the category of "You've gotta be kidding me": Dateline Chicago: MLB has told little league officials that they cannot use MLB team names, not just insignias but the names themselves, unless they buy the jerseys from Majestic, which is much more expensive than other suppliers. So teams would have to spend needed funds to buy new uniforms if they want to use those names. They are forbidden to use the ones they currently have....Has someone truly lost his/her mind? Baseball is losing it's following among youth by the droves and they pull a stunt like this? If a kid was on a team named, for instance, the Angels, and he played second or third, might he become interested in a Chone Figgins and maybe collect a card or two or watch a game now and then because of that fact? Absolute greedy madness at work by someone. I know it's off-topic, but I needed a moment to vent. Thanks for the opportunity. We now return you to the regularly scheduled thread already in progress... From the category of “You’ve gotta be kidding me”: Dateline Chicago: MLB has told little league officials that they cannot use MLB team names, not just insignias but the names themselves, unless they buy the jerseys from Majestic, which is much more expensive than other suppliers. So teams would have to spend needed funds to buy new uniforms if they want to use those names. They are forbidden to use the ones they currently have….Has someone truly lost his/her mind? Baseball is losing it’s following among youth by the droves and they pull a stunt like this? If a kid was on a team named, for instance, the Angels, and he played second or third, might he become interested in a Chone Figgins and maybe collect a card or two or watch a game now and then because of that fact? Absolute greedy madness at work by someone. I know it’s off-topic, but I needed a moment to vent. Thanks for the opportunity. We now return you to the regularly scheduled thread already in progress…

]]> By: Glenn http://redlegnation.com/2008/05/26/jay-bruce-is-coming/#comment-1072370 Glenn Tue, 27 May 2008 15:29:27 +0000 http://redlegnation.com/2008/05/26/jay-bruce-is-coming/#comment-1072370 Keep Hatteberg, Adios Patterson. Hatteberg will have trade value later on, not to mention he's a better hitter. Patterson has no trade value and will only decrease (if that's possible) in the future. Keep Hatteberg, Adios Patterson. Hatteberg will have trade value later on, not to mention he’s a better hitter. Patterson has no trade value and will only decrease (if that’s possible) in the future.

]]> By: Chris http://redlegnation.com/2008/05/26/jay-bruce-is-coming/#comment-1072297 Chris Tue, 27 May 2008 13:32:23 +0000 http://redlegnation.com/2008/05/26/jay-bruce-is-coming/#comment-1072297 Two big reasons why Hatteberg can't be traded: 1. Numbers as a pinch hitter this year (19 PAs): .059 .158 .059 2. Numbers outside of GABP last year: .244 .351 .366 (compared to .370 .436 .571 at home). Two big reasons why Hatteberg can’t be traded:

1. Numbers as a pinch hitter this year (19 PAs): .059 .158 .059

2. Numbers outside of GABP last year: .244 .351 .366 (compared to .370 .436 .571 at home).

]]> By: Chris http://redlegnation.com/2008/05/26/jay-bruce-is-coming/#comment-1072271 Chris Tue, 27 May 2008 13:02:21 +0000 http://redlegnation.com/2008/05/26/jay-bruce-is-coming/#comment-1072271 That June 2 date is not carved in stone. Bruce's arb-eligibility in 2011 will be determined by how he ranks in service time, compared to the rest of the guys with >2, but <3 years of service time. It's impossible to know until you get to that point. June 2 is a guess, based on prior years. That June 2 date is not carved in stone. Bruce’s arb-eligibility in 2011 will be determined by how he ranks in service time, compared to the rest of the guys with >2, but <3 years of service time. It’s impossible to know until you get to that point. June 2 is a guess, based on prior years.

]]> By: Mark in CC http://redlegnation.com/2008/05/26/jay-bruce-is-coming/#comment-1072260 Mark in CC Tue, 27 May 2008 12:55:57 +0000 http://redlegnation.com/2008/05/26/jay-bruce-is-coming/#comment-1072260 May 27! Isn't this timing a bit odd? Not saying I didn't want Bruce here from the beginning but wouldn't one week and June 2 have been a lot more businesslike for future arbitration eligibility. What is one more week at this point? May 27! Isn’t this timing a bit odd? Not saying I didn’t want Bruce here from the beginning but wouldn’t one week and June 2 have been a lot more businesslike for future arbitration eligibility. What is one more week at this point?

]]> By: GregD http://redlegnation.com/2008/05/26/jay-bruce-is-coming/#comment-1072246 GregD Tue, 27 May 2008 12:29:13 +0000 http://redlegnation.com/2008/05/26/jay-bruce-is-coming/#comment-1072246 Earlier comments about Griffey should be the one to go: Griffey's May numbers are not great: 256avg/340obp/337slg - 667 OPS But if you think that is bad, how bad is Corey Patterson hurting this team: 183avg/183obp/200slg - 383 OPS Ryan Freel's SLG is higher than Patterson's OPS. A .183 obp for the leadoff hitter is why you lose a lot of close games that should otherwise win. .383 is what you want from the leadoff hitter's obp alone. Earlier comments about Griffey should be the one to go:

Griffey’s May numbers are not great:
256avg/340obp/337slg – 667 OPS

But if you think that is bad, how bad is Corey Patterson hurting this team:
183avg/183obp/200slg – 383 OPS

Ryan Freel’s SLG is higher than Patterson’s OPS. A .183 obp for the leadoff hitter is why you lose a lot of close games that should otherwise win. .383 is what you want from the leadoff hitter’s obp alone.

]]> By: Bill http://redlegnation.com/2008/05/26/jay-bruce-is-coming/#comment-1072221 Bill Tue, 27 May 2008 11:43:22 +0000 http://redlegnation.com/2008/05/26/jay-bruce-is-coming/#comment-1072221 Enquirer raises the possibility of Hatteburg being released today when Bruce is activated. Points out that last two games that Votto has rested, Valentin has started. (Boy, sure am glad that Krivsky didn't trade Hatteburg when the Reds Sox were interested.) Could Reds hold on to Patterson and release Hatteburg? Or will someone develop a sudden injury? Enquirer raises the possibility of Hatteburg being released today when Bruce is activated. Points out that last two games that Votto has rested, Valentin has started. (Boy, sure am glad that Krivsky didn’t trade Hatteburg when the Reds Sox were interested.)

Could Reds hold on to Patterson and release Hatteburg? Or will someone develop a sudden injury?

]]> By: Mike Martz http://redlegnation.com/2008/05/26/jay-bruce-is-coming/#comment-1072139 Mike Martz Tue, 27 May 2008 10:05:42 +0000 http://redlegnation.com/2008/05/26/jay-bruce-is-coming/#comment-1072139 I sure hope the REDS do the right thing and dump Patterson now! I wonder if Homer will ever get the call? I sure hope the REDS do the right thing and dump Patterson now!
I wonder if Homer will ever get the call?

]]> By: Stacky from Downunder http://redlegnation.com/2008/05/26/jay-bruce-is-coming/#comment-1071822 Stacky from Downunder Tue, 27 May 2008 04:32:06 +0000 http://redlegnation.com/2008/05/26/jay-bruce-is-coming/#comment-1071822 Well I guess there is a big chance that Griff won't play tomorrow being that he played the whole 2.1 games yesterday and they had the horror trip back from Southern Cal. So we may still see Jay in RF and Freel in CF leading off. With the Lefty going the next day you might see Dunn have a chair and Bruce slide to CF. I suppose EE could sit tomorrow and Freel leading off playing 3rd.... Well I guess there is a big chance that Griff won’t play tomorrow being that he played the whole 2.1 games yesterday and they had the horror trip back from Southern Cal. So we may still see Jay in RF and Freel in CF leading off. With the Lefty going the next day you might see Dunn have a chair and Bruce slide to CF. I suppose EE could sit tomorrow and Freel leading off playing 3rd….

]]> By: Y-City Jim http://redlegnation.com/2008/05/26/jay-bruce-is-coming/#comment-1071790 Y-City Jim Tue, 27 May 2008 03:43:53 +0000 http://redlegnation.com/2008/05/26/jay-bruce-is-coming/#comment-1071790 Isn't the Dusty mentality to have the CF lead off? The rest of the line-up pretty much stays as it is probably. I'm not saying that is what I would do. I'm just saying that the the Baker track record. If David Ross played CF then Baker would have him lead off. Isn’t the Dusty mentality to have the CF lead off? The rest of the line-up pretty much stays as it is probably. I’m not saying that is what I would do. I’m just saying that the the Baker track record. If David Ross played CF then Baker would have him lead off.

]]> By: Stacky from Downunder http://redlegnation.com/2008/05/26/jay-bruce-is-coming/#comment-1071700 Stacky from Downunder Tue, 27 May 2008 02:59:53 +0000 http://redlegnation.com/2008/05/26/jay-bruce-is-coming/#comment-1071700 Why not give Encarnarcion a look at lead-off? EE, Jnr, BP, Bruce, Dunn, Votto, Hairston (Janish) & Ross (Bako). Were gunner be LH heavy somewhere.....I like EE getting on base more than Hairston / Janish for the big boys to drive him in (and I know he is slumping but he will come out of it soon and hit .350 for a week or two). Good thing about EE is he hits lots of doubles so less chance of those Jnr/BP double plays we have grown to 'love'. When Kep gets back we can look to at a more traditional line up...... Why not give Encarnarcion a look at lead-off? EE, Jnr, BP, Bruce, Dunn, Votto, Hairston (Janish) & Ross (Bako). Were gunner be LH heavy somewhere…..I like EE getting on base more than Hairston / Janish for the big boys to drive him in (and I know he is slumping but he will come out of it soon and hit .350 for a week or two). Good thing about EE is he hits lots of doubles so less chance of those Jnr/BP double plays we have grown to ‘love’. When Kep gets back we can look to at a more traditional line up……

]]> By: DevilsAdvocate http://redlegnation.com/2008/05/26/jay-bruce-is-coming/#comment-1071696 DevilsAdvocate Tue, 27 May 2008 02:47:59 +0000 http://redlegnation.com/2008/05/26/jay-bruce-is-coming/#comment-1071696 Amazing - I just got to Columbus to watch a 4-game series that the Bats are playing here. That's okay - I'm really here to see another player anyway, and he did well tonight. Go Bruce! Will he play every day as they've essentially promised before? Amazing – I just got to Columbus to watch a 4-game series that the Bats are playing here. That’s okay – I’m really here to see another player anyway, and he did well tonight. Go Bruce! Will he play every day as they’ve essentially promised before?

]]> By: Stacky from Downunder http://redlegnation.com/2008/05/26/jay-bruce-is-coming/#comment-1071653 Stacky from Downunder Tue, 27 May 2008 01:49:18 +0000 http://redlegnation.com/2008/05/26/jay-bruce-is-coming/#comment-1071653 Obviously the excitement level is there with Jay getting the call. No way he won't start tomorrow unless Dusty wants an express ticket outta here! I really think there has to be more than just that move. Lincoln probably saved his bacon with an effective performance yesterday. Can he put back to back efforts together? He has to prove it but he probably got himself a week or two. Fogg - I am not against giving him a spot start. I think its either do it or DFA him. Yesterday was the perfect opportunity to get him in long relief and he could not get the 7 / 8 or 9 spot out for the Padres. Its obvious he aint got the trust of the coaching staff so either spot him a start to see if he can come alive again or bring someone else up. I would put Belilse in the bullpen asap. If it aint Fogg maybe you do go with Maloney to start. I don't think you can get Thompson up this year - he is a keeper for 2009. Adkins or Madjeski must be close to a call up soon. Anyways good see we have plenty of anticipation for the next few months even if that means our best hope in 2008 is fighting for 3rd place! Obviously the excitement level is there with Jay getting the call. No way he won’t start tomorrow unless Dusty wants an express ticket outta here!

I really think there has to be more than just that move. Lincoln probably saved his bacon with an effective performance yesterday. Can he put back to back efforts together? He has to prove it but he probably got himself a week or two.

Fogg – I am not against giving him a spot start. I think its either do it or DFA him. Yesterday was the perfect opportunity to get him in long relief and he could not get the 7 / 8 or 9 spot out for the Padres. Its obvious he aint got the trust of the coaching staff so either spot him a start to see if he can come alive again or bring someone else up.

I would put Belilse in the bullpen asap. If it aint Fogg maybe you do go with Maloney to start. I don’t think you can get Thompson up this year – he is a keeper for 2009. Adkins or Madjeski must be close to a call up soon.

Anyways good see we have plenty of anticipation for the next few months even if that means our best hope in 2008 is fighting for 3rd place!

]]> By: david http://redlegnation.com/2008/05/26/jay-bruce-is-coming/#comment-1071639 david Tue, 27 May 2008 01:37:49 +0000 http://redlegnation.com/2008/05/26/jay-bruce-is-coming/#comment-1071639 So what's the lineup projected to be at this point? Who will lead off? So what’s the lineup projected to be at this point? Who will lead off?

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