Game Thread: Reds @ Dodgers - 2008.05.21
After taking 3 from the Marlins and sweeping the Indians in 3, the Reds will look to avoid being swept tonight by the Dodgers in L.A. The Reds will send Johnny Cueto to the mound to try and stop the bleeding.
I must admit, most of my attention will be on the other Los Angeles team tonight, but I’ll try to peek in on Cueto from time to time. Discuss the game here…

May 21st, 2008 at 9:56 pm
Might listen to the Dodger broadcast at MLB.com. Thom Brennaman is starting to grate on me.
May 21st, 2008 at 10:10 pm
DirecTV’s HD feed isn’t working again.
May 21st, 2008 at 10:13 pm
Can we send a bill through congress that will prohibit Corey Patterson from leading off?
May 21st, 2008 at 10:19 pm
I could swear in court that I heard George call Chris the “Crappy Lefthander”.
May 21st, 2008 at 10:22 pm
What’s up with the DirecTV HD feed?
May 21st, 2008 at 10:25 pm
Chris was a pretty crappy lefthander back in his day. Good announcer, though.
May 21st, 2008 at 10:29 pm
Check swing double.
How about that?
May 21st, 2008 at 10:30 pm
Dunn should learn to do that on purpose
May 21st, 2008 at 10:30 pm
Dunn with a double to lead off the 2nd.
May 21st, 2008 at 10:32 pm
RBI for Votto. 1-0 Reds.
May 21st, 2008 at 10:36 pm
HD is up now.
May 21st, 2008 at 10:37 pm
Dunner should take a lot of those outside pitches that way. One of two things would happen: either they would take off that crazy shift, or Dunn would know they would pitch him middle-in if they left the shift on.
Should have had more than just one run that inning. I hope grounding back to the pitcher is not the trend all night.
May 21st, 2008 at 10:38 pm
leadoff walk. yuck.
May 21st, 2008 at 10:40 pm
the Dodgers have a nice core of young players. They should be real solid for the next few seasons.
May 21st, 2008 at 11:00 pm
Dodgers have a strong farm system too … they have more on the way
May 21st, 2008 at 11:16 pm
I think they finally have a management team in place who will play the best players, as opposed to the biggest names. Of course, having Jones stink up the joint, and Nomar on the DL makes some of those decisions a little easier.
Of course, there’s no explaining why Andy LaRoche still hasn’t gotten his chance.
May 21st, 2008 at 11:17 pm
Playing the best players? Novel concept.
May 21st, 2008 at 11:21 pm
Pete Rose in the booth with Chris and George.
May 21st, 2008 at 11:28 pm
Is that Pete?
May 21st, 2008 at 11:29 pm
Pete looks hilarious with that untucked shirt and blank ballcap.
May 21st, 2008 at 11:31 pm
Cueto needs a whif here.
May 21st, 2008 at 11:33 pm
Pete has finally asked the question: Why in the world does Dusty wear sweatbands?
Pete’s tongue is definitely loose.
May 21st, 2008 at 11:34 pm
I think he’s had a few. If this inning goes on five more minutes, he’s going to get himself in real trouble.
May 21st, 2008 at 11:35 pm
Listening to Pete might be the highlight of tonight’s game. I can’t believe how shitty this team is.
May 21st, 2008 at 11:36 pm
C’mon BAKO. Now Cueto’s getting yelled at by Pole.
May 21st, 2008 at 11:39 pm
Marty gleeful in suggesting that Cueto spend some time at AAA, but at least Thom is defending him
May 21st, 2008 at 11:39 pm
Pete was surprisingly interesting to listen to. Definitely entertaining.
May 21st, 2008 at 11:40 pm
On a side note, the Lakers have just taken a four point lead after being down by 20 at one point.
May 21st, 2008 at 11:41 pm
John Fay is full of predictions today:
- Bruce to be called up after this road trip (aka Tuesday).
- Todd Frazier in the mix for a corner OF spot next spring, assuming both Dunn and Jr are gone.
May 21st, 2008 at 11:41 pm
Can’t stand the Lakers. Or the Dodgers.
May 21st, 2008 at 11:43 pm
Talking about Club 4192:
“Am I allowed to go in there?” Hilarious.
May 21st, 2008 at 11:43 pm
I’d be surprised if Bruce is up before June 1.
And what are the chances Dusty would play him ahead of Patterson anyway?
May 21st, 2008 at 11:44 pm
Matt Belisle vs. Greg Maddux on Sunday. I know Maddux is 80 years old, but I don’t like the sound of that matchup.
May 21st, 2008 at 11:45 pm
Patterson is so terrible, it’s sickening.
May 21st, 2008 at 11:48 pm
I get the feeling Dusty isn’t going to have much choice in the matter. Patterson is going to be the king of the double-switch, I suspect.
May 21st, 2008 at 11:50 pm
Kobe Bryant is a beast. Fay’s Frazier prediction is really interesting, but where would we spend all of that freed up money? I don’t like spending on bullpen guys because the most you’ll get is 60 to 80 innings, so a catcher maybe or a starter. or maybe a cf to hold it down until (fingers crossed) Stubbs is ready?
May 21st, 2008 at 11:52 pm
Jocketty has said that when bruce comes up its to play full time.
he said thats why he isnt up cause they cant find at bats for him.
May 21st, 2008 at 11:53 pm
That money gets eaten up by arbitration and bigger contract years for guys like Arroyo ($11m I think).
Btw…sorry if the s-word offended anyone earlier. Family site, I know.
May 21st, 2008 at 11:53 pm
For those who are bored, the free agent list: http://mlbcontracts.blogspot.com/2002/02/2008-09-free-agents.html
May 21st, 2008 at 11:54 pm
I could find a ton of ABs for him.
May 21st, 2008 at 11:56 pm
I hate the west coast.
May 21st, 2008 at 11:56 pm
Oh my goodness. They have 4 runs: 1 on a passed ball, 1 on a wild pitch, and now 1 on a pickoff throw into the 2nd row. Nice D.
May 21st, 2008 at 11:56 pm
Marty- “Johnny Cueto is an absolute train wreck”
May 21st, 2008 at 11:58 pm
john with the money situation, there should be as much as 20 million available (see JinAZ’s spreadsheet): http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pfk_WuYpfdux7V5EufbQhGw&gid=1
May 22nd, 2008 at 12:02 am
John Fay is full of predictions today:
- Todd Frazier in the mix for a corner OF spot next spring, assuming both Dunn and Jr are gone.
Saw Frazier a few weeks back in 2 ball games. If he continues to progress, he could be something.
May 22nd, 2008 at 12:03 am
Brett - I stand corrected. Thanks for the resource!
May 22nd, 2008 at 12:03 am
I heard Marty on XM with Charlie Steiner this afternoon. He was composed and spoke quite well, Place him in the booth and the rant begins.
May 22nd, 2008 at 12:06 am
Really seems like BP is GIDP every single game. Why he still bats cleanup, I don’t understand.
May 22nd, 2008 at 12:16 am
Would sure be nice to have a true right handed #4 hitter, so BP could be placed somewhere else in the order
May 22nd, 2008 at 12:18 am
What happened to Hairston?
May 22nd, 2008 at 12:18 am
You are right though that there are a few guys reaching arbitration; EE, Volquez, Bray, Majewski, and Kepp are all geting arbitration next season, but it shouldn’t cost more than $10 mil, plus 400K for all of the three years or less guys, so there may only be $12-$15 million left assuming the Reds are going to spend like they have this season. You could use that to lock guys up with front loaded contracts (namely EE and Volquez) or else find a FA or resign Dunn.
May 22nd, 2008 at 12:20 am
you know what we need….veteran presence.
May 22nd, 2008 at 12:24 am
Sounds to me like another management mistake. The manager is the leader and should have taken Cueto out after the first batter reached base in the 5th. No wonder Crusty Baker did well with veteran players, just set the team on auto pilot and go. Nobody can get any rhythm because leadership is bad, playing a lead off man who bats about .200…my grandmother knows better than to put Patterson in the line up.
May 22nd, 2008 at 12:36 am
Marty is also stunned that Votto, like Cueto, has not yet been sent down to AAA
May 22nd, 2008 at 12:47 am
mike according to vin scully hariston left the game due to dehydration/dizziness.
May 22nd, 2008 at 8:39 am
Bruce is blocked by Corey Patterson? Hopefully, that will end by the Reds next homestand.
Also
“I’d like to see him (Junior) get it over with (600hr),” Baker said. “I don’t care who you are, it’s got to weigh on you some. He doesn’t show it at all.”
I’ve been saying it all season, bat Dunn 4th behind Junior and he’ll get to 600 before you know it. Just don’t bat Phillips 5th in that scenario because all his GIDP’s will erase Dunn’s walks!
May 22nd, 2008 at 2:55 pm
Would you trade David Weathers for Aaron Heilman? I do this deal if I were Jocketty.