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Game Thread: Cubs at Reds — 2008.05.07

Well, yesterday looked like the same old Reds who couldn’t hit water if they fell out of a boat. The good news is that the Reds can clinch a winning homestand with a win this afternoon. Yeah, it was just a three-game homestand, but I’ll take a series win against the presumed NL Central favorite.

More good news: Edinson Volquez is on the mound against someone who could be his grandfather, Jon Lieber. The Redlegs really need another good start from Volquez because, heaven knows, the Reds’ hitters aren’t going to contribute to the cause.

At any rate, ignore your job and discuss the game here….

100 comments to Game Thread: Cubs at Reds — 2008.05.07

  • GregD

    Volquez has had the best run support all season. The team has scored 35 runs in his 6 starts. Ironically, until last night, he had been the only Red’s starter to get zero run support, having pitched in each of the Reds previous two shutouts.

    RS per Game when Volquez pitches:
    8, 0, 9, 8, 10, 0

    Let’s hope for one of those 8-10 run games!

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  • Working is more fun than listening to this team.

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  • GregD

    I guess Baker has scrapped the lineup from the last few days:

    Corey Patterson CF
    Jerry Hairston SS
    Ken Griffey Jr. RF
    Brandon Phillips 2B
    Joey Votto 1B
    Adam Dunn LF
    Edwin Encarnacion 3B
    Paul Bako C
    Edinson Volquez P

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  • I told my boss you told me to ignore my job. He did not appreciate it!

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  • Patterson and Hairston 1-2? I think I’ll work today.

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  • GregD

    Patterson and Hairston. blech
    Dunn still batting 6th.
    Encarnacion 7th?

    I’d love to see Dunn and Encarnacion’s OBP up in the order.

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  • Steve Price

    Dunn and Encarnacion would clog the bases if they got on base further up in the order. Patterson and Hairston won’t, ahem, clog any bases.

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  • Ron

    Nice windy day at the park today … it will be enjoyable to watch the Reds make Leiber look like at top of the line ace like they do with all the other mediocre starters in the league

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  • renbutler

    Heavy rain bearing down on Cincy. This could be a short one, so get the lead early!

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  • buddy

    hmm…Hairston does his job, Patterson, Griffey and Phillips don’t. Same old same old.

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  • Scott

    Interesting note I just read. You know who is outslugging both Dunn and Griffey. Mr. Corey Patterson. Of course Zambrano is too.

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  • buddy

    In all fairness though…it’s got to be tough to catch up with Leibers 87 mph heat…man what a stud.

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  • nick in va

    Home run by Votto! 1-0 good guys.

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  • nick in va

    Back to back. Dunn hits one out.

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  • buddy

    Holy Votto….play the young guys? naaa…lets keep Patterson in there…..Cant get it Dunn actually did…wow

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  • nick in va

    Bako goes deep. Three homers this inning.

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  • Abner

    Where did this offense come from – 4 batters 3 HRs.

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  • renbutler

    Holy cow (to steal a phrase)! I guess the Reds looked at the radar.

    Any more lefties coming up? ;)

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  • buddy

    Dusty just shakes his head….Bako rocks…David who?

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  • Thom just said “Patterson needs a new piece of lumber”. Truer words were never spoken….

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  • renbutler

    “Strike three” to Patterson actually missed the plate by about 6 inches.

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  • renbutler

    Bottle this magic, guys. 4HR

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  • nick in va

    Another homer. A two run shot by Hairston.

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  • Scott

    One thing I will say for Baker is that for the most part he has just let Votto play, which is what he should do. On the other hand, there is no excuse for playing Patterson at this point.

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  • buddy

    no excuse for playing Patterson is right.

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  • buddy

    Dusty’s man-crush on Patterson needs to end.

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  • buddy

    I like how DirecTV MLB extra innings is finally providing both team feeds (not today) but I wish the guide would tell you which channel was what feed so you could set the DVR easier. Can I get a witness?

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  • I’m just glad I finally have my HD and my lovely wife is recording the game in beautiful high definition!

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  • Ron

    I agree Buddy … I have the same issue.

    I am watching the game on high def too … and have discovered how the Reds are hitting so well today, they are closing their eyes :razz:

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  • GregD

    Bako matched his best single season HR record with his 4th homerun today. He’s only hit 4 one other time in his career: 2002 with Milwaukee in 234 at-bats.

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  • buddy

    Yea HD is addictive, its hard to go back…It’s always a tough choice…if the Reds feed is not in HD but the other teams is…which do you watch?

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  • GregD

    The Reds scored 5 runs in the 2nd inning and did nothing to improve their avg with RISP.

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  • GregD

    I listened to Baker’s pregame interview on the radio. He said Keppinger has lost some weight and needed the day off. Kepp’s supposed to do nothing much but eat all day today and tomorrow.

    Is Kepp going to be a Freel-like player. Great as super-utility 300-400 at-bat per year type of guy who wears down with everyday playing time??

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  • buddy

    OMG, the camera just showed the scariest Cubs fans ever…the ugliest couple with matching mullets….ye gads.

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  • buddy

    And Sweet Lou’s got his pants pulled up to his tits….wedgie anyone…ouch!

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  • Ron

    When I only have the HD avaiable for the opposing team, I listen to the Reds broadcast on teh radio … they arent always in sinc but its better than listening to these two knuckleheads from Chicago.

    Those ugly Cubs fans they showed was Bartman and his wife incognito … its teh only way they can see a game without getting doused in beer ;-)

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  • buddy

    nice one Ron.

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  • GregD

    Volquez seems to be walking quite a few batters today.

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  • buddy

    Hey Walt Jocketty, I know we’re winning and all but I’m still disgusted and bored…can we DFA someone today just for a goof? Actually watching Voltron is pretty fun…96 and then pull the string 81mph…wow

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  • Ron

    Walt actually made some moves today … they fianlly promoted some minor leaguers that was long over due.

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  • al

    the cubs announcers have no clue how to identify volquez’s pitches. they’ve called his changeup about 7 different things. cutters, sliders, sinkers.

    not really knocking them or anything, it’s not like they should have studied him. but i think it goes to show you how deceptive his change is. it fools me sometimes on tv.

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  • Ron

    Ok, its raining, we need a quick 1-2-3 to make this game official

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  • Andy

    hey cowboy, not everyone is getting in on the action today (cough, Patterson, cough).

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  • GregD

    These homeruns are nice, but how does this help the team’s avg w/RISP?

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  • al

    geez, save some for ny guys.

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  • Andy

    hey guys, save some homeruns for the rest of the season.

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  • GregD

    Patterson’s the good luck charm!

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  • joe

    imagine if we could have gotten volquez for dunn instead of hamilton

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  • GregD

    It’s either a big 8+ run scoring game, or it’s 0-2 runs. There’s little in between with this team so far this year.

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  • Ron

    Cub pitchers have been throwing BP today … not of those homers were on good pitches … big fatties right down the pipe. If pitchers throw decent pitches with good location, more often than not the Reds will struggle …

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  • buddy

    Back from my allergy shot and HOLY VOTTO!

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  • Ok, what’s the consensus on how long they should let Volquez go? He’s at 94 pitches through 6 IP. I’d try to get him through the 7th, but no more than 110.

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  • Andy

    cubs killer votto

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  • Kerm

    I was wrong about thinking the offense was going to be anemic today thanks to the one two punch of hairston and patterson. Thank goodness for Votto!

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  • GregD

    Vottomatic!

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  • Andy

    I’d let him pitch 7, with a quick hook. no sense forcing anything w/ a 9 run lead, but a rested bullpen headed into NY isn’t a bad thing

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  • al

    i agree ron, but isn’t that pretty much true for everyone?

    red letter day for votto. 3hr, 1bb and a sb.

    that’s a .1000/.1000/.4000 line on the day. not bad.

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  • These games are a lot more fun to watch! (Although when will Dusty stop putting 0-fer Patterson in the leadoff spot?!) I’d put him 9th in the lineup ala LaRussa.

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  • GregD

    Who’s the only red in the lineup to not have a hit?

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  • Ron

    Not really Al … good disciplined hitters hit good pitching and punish bad pitching … undisciplined hitters rarely hit good pitching … and we have a lineup full of hackers. I dont blame the players completely .. I put just as much of the onus on coaching.

    Im putting my votes in for Votto for ROY right now. I’d love to see him get a chance to get #4.

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  • buddy

    This team’s like a gang of binge drinkers on their weekly London pub crawl. How much longer for Voltron? Another strike out. Maybe let Stormy pitch….on second thought…Hey Ron, what moves are you talking about?

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  • GregD

    good disciplined hitters have better success against good pitchers, but also make them throw more pitches, get them to a higher pitch count earlier in the game, let the rest of the team take advantage of the high pitch through the pitcher’s lessening effectiveness or by facing the middle relievers.

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  • TylerS

    I find myself rooting against Patterson today in hope that I may never see his name in a lineup ever again. This has to be the final nail in his coffin. Let’s pray Dusty realizes he sucks after today.

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  • buddy

    The best thing about this game is seeing the blank and dumb expressions on the faces of the annoying Cubs fans who drive to GABP. Sucka’s…

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  • Chris

    What a goofy-ass team. Shutout, shutout, 10 runs, shutout.

    This team used to have good plate discipline. Of course, a ton of people bitched and moaned about called 3rd strikes. Now, they swing at pretty much anything.

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  • buddy

    paging….Dick……Pole…..the Vulcan needs one more….the Cubs announcers are discussing how the Cubs are gonna come back….

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  • buddy

    ah ha….sit down Lee!

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  • I heard Thom complaining about their plate discipline last night, could it have something to do with Dusty’s philosophy? Nahhh.

    118 pitches, that’s plenty.

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  • al

    have to question running volquez up so high in a 9-0 game.

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  • Steve Price

    After Dusty commented on guys taking too many pitches in spring training (I believe Votto was the target of the conversation), Votto had something like one walk in about his first 50 plate appearances this year and was doing so-so. Now, I think he’s had 8-9 more in his second group of 50 plate appearances and he’s on fire.

    That’s how plate discipline helps.

    Dunn, Griffey, and Phillips will come around….I just hope the pitching holds out long enough.

    Pitching Volquez needlessly does not help the pitching staff….we have more relief arms in the minors and all over baseball….

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  • Ron

    Buddy,

    Valaika & Frazier were finally promoted one level. Long over due as they were too old for the level they were playing at and where being blocked by non prospects … Meseraco, our #1 pick last year was finally sent to Dayton from extended spring training … where he should have been all along. We still have two or three other guys in need of a promotion. Stubbs, Thompson, & Smith just to name a few.

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  • Just wanted to reiterate that Joey Votto is my favorite Red!

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  • Thom just said that everybody, including the pither, has a hit except Patterson…..anyone suprised by that statement?

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  • buddy

    ah, the Voltron’s fine….rest well Ed…you done good.

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  • Free Norris Hopper!!!

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  • Chris

    118 is a bit much.

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  • buddy

    Thanks for the update Ron.

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  • Was just looking on CBS Sportsline Gamecenter at Patterson’s hot/cold zones…he only has cold zones. I’ve never noticed that before on anyone.

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  • Chris

    Everybody’s fed up with Patterson, announcers included.

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  • buddy

    Holy Moly …Mr. Redlegs took a serious tumble and his baseball head fell off…

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  • buddy

    Well if Farney cooled it with the bubblegum he may have gotten in on the gang bang.

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  • Ron

    I think Pattersons plan at the palte is to swing at everything and hope to accidently get a hit every once in a while

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  • DevilsAdvocate

    Did Thom just refer to Weathers as being “lights-out in a closer’s role” last year? Is my fevered mind playing tricks on me?

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  • buddy

    You just know Stormy’s gonna blow the shut out. But not because he didnt care.

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  • buddy

    Ok so i was wrong…sorry Storm

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  • Wow, wish I had recorded this game. Is it on WGN?

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  • buddy

    No its on Comcast Sportsnet

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  • buddy

    Bernie Stowe bobblehead night? Thoughts

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  • Gah.. I used to look forward to the Reds playing the Braves and Cubs because I could watch the game. Not anymore.

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  • buddy

    I didnt realize the mustache was catching. Sweet Lou is scowling and his pants are still pulled all the way up to his man t’s

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  • Matt B.

    If Bailey isn’t going to be brought up, I wouldn’t mind seeing Affedlt take a crack or two at starting a game. Another bad start from Bronson, and I’ll be convinced.

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  • buddy

    Alfonso Soriano hitting .190 ouch! Sucka’s!

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  • renbutler

    “Alfonso Soriano hitting .190 ouch! Sucka’s!”

    Yeah, can you imagine having a lead-off hitter that awful? :D:D:D

    I know, at least ours isn’t locked in for ten years and a bazillion dollars.

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  • renbutler

    “Did Thom just refer to Weathers as being ‘lights-out in a closer’s role’ last year? Is my fevered mind playing tricks on me?”

    IIRC, he did have a great stretch of saves. However, he did get very shaky as time went on.

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  • Ron

    Typical ESPN homerism .. if any Redsox or Yankee player was coming up for a chance at hitting 4 homers in a game, they’d break coverage and show that players next AB live … not a peep out of them until after the game is over. Gotta love it.

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  • buddy

    no doubt renbutler….I still cant believe Patterson’s getting 3 mil though…is it possible that he’s dusty’s illegitimate child.

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  • buddy

    Reds get no love from Gammons and gang unless it’s to talk about where Griffey should get traded to….typical

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  • buddy

    Hey my Dick Pole customized replica Jersey just got here UPS…..yes!

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  • ren – Joke all you want, I think I’d trade Patterson straight up for Soriano in a non-salary capped fantasy league. :)

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