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Game Thread: Dodgers at Reds - 04.21.2008

“We won one today, that’s 2 in a row, if we win one tomorrow they call that a winning streak. It has happened before”

The Reds will send Matt Belisle out for his first start of the season.  He has been outstanding in the minors this season.  Let’s hope that success continues today against Brad Penny and the Dodgers.

Watch the game, Listen to the game, Cheer for Matt Buh-Lizzle, and Discuss it here….

67 comments to Game Thread: Dodgers at Reds - 04.21.2008

  1. Y-City Jim
    April 21st, 2008 at 7:19 pm

    Welcome back to the majors where they hit balls thrown down the middle of the plate.

  2. Y-City Jim
    April 21st, 2008 at 7:21 pm

    Did Kemp just chase three balls out of the zone?

  3. BenL
    April 21st, 2008 at 7:21 pm

    I sure hope that we don’t see Fogg tonight.

  4. al
    April 21st, 2008 at 7:22 pm

    wow, matt kemp just looked pretty bad there. the same not-that-amazing breaking ball 3 times, and he wasn’t within a foot of any of them.

  5. Y-City Jim
    April 21st, 2008 at 7:24 pm

    Hello, Dusty!! Freel isn’t a lead off hitter either.

  6. Y-City Jim
    April 21st, 2008 at 7:25 pm

    So what is BP’s problem? Why is he in such a slump?

  7. Y-City Jim
    April 21st, 2008 at 7:27 pm

    Alright, Junior!!

    Let’s see if Dusty’s theory of Dunn being a clean up hitter is correct.

  8. Y-City Jim
    April 21st, 2008 at 7:34 pm

    So what this tiff I heard Brantley and Marty had the other day?

  9. Y-City Jim
    April 21st, 2008 at 7:42 pm

    Same old Bellisle. Can’t bear down when the going gets tough.

  10. Y-City Jim
    April 21st, 2008 at 7:51 pm

    Pop Up City!

  11. preach
    April 21st, 2008 at 7:56 pm

    Penny is having some problems getting the heater over. His getting wild is our only real shot of making this a game. I’ve seen him pitch too many times. If he hits a groove, it’s over.

  12. preach
    April 21st, 2008 at 8:00 pm

    Belisle is giving up some serious line drives. He’s not fooling anybody. Looks like we will see Fogg again.

  13. Mike Martz
    April 21st, 2008 at 8:02 pm

    Y-City Jim, I’m not sure if this is what your refering too, but Marty got upset at the “Ask Marty” segment when Brantley asked him why he hates Cubs fans. Marty said he wasn’t going there, but he continued to rant about Cubs fans anyway.

  14. Mike Martz
    April 21st, 2008 at 8:03 pm

    the Boo birds are out tonight and the Fogg may be rolling in!

  15. Y-City Jim
    April 21st, 2008 at 8:11 pm

    The story I heard was something about the Cowboy correcting Marty. Supposedly Marty turned off his microphone and through Brantley’s mike you could hear Marty tell him to never do that again.

  16. al
    April 21st, 2008 at 8:14 pm

    welsh just outlined exactly why speed is overrated at the top of the order, as freel gets gunned in front of the heart of the order, and still it remains the “conventional wisdom.”

    that’s one old school idea i can’t wait to see die.

  17. Y-City Jim
    April 21st, 2008 at 8:21 pm

    Well, that’s sort of a 1-2-3 inning.

  18. Chris
    April 21st, 2008 at 8:22 pm

    I read that story over in a comment thread at McCoy’s or someplace. Supposedly used the F word , which went out over Brantley’s mic. That I SERIOUSLY doubt. This isn’t Marty’s first week in a radio booth.

    Haven’t seen anything about it on any “sanctioned” board, but that’s not surprising.

  19. Chris
    April 21st, 2008 at 8:23 pm

    Krivsky in the FSN booth, saying absolutely nothing. He’s about as transparent and trustworthy as Don Rumsfeld.

  20. Y-City Jim
    April 21st, 2008 at 8:24 pm

    Seems like Dunn is starting to get those low pitches called balls this year.

  21. TylerS
    April 21st, 2008 at 8:30 pm

    On the Marty/Brantley subject… A few seconds of the gameday audio broadcast in the MLB radio archives have been blocked out. You can tell because the call for one pitch comes immediately after the other.

    I didn’t hear the call live, and the blocked out section can’t really confirm the use or non-use of an F-bomb, but it’s an intriguing case of censorship none the less.

  22. Y-City Jim
    April 21st, 2008 at 8:30 pm

    Brad Penny or not this offense is lame.

  23. al
    April 21st, 2008 at 8:39 pm

    i had really high expectations for this team, but man, they look terrible. will matt belisle please just go away? they will keep running him out there all season because of his “stuff,” but damn, he is bad.

  24. Mike Martz
    April 21st, 2008 at 8:41 pm

    Affeldt in

  25. John
    April 21st, 2008 at 8:42 pm

    I guess bringing in Fogg at this point would be too much irony for one game.

    The Reds look overmatched vs. a team with virtually the same record.

  26. Matt Stiers
    April 21st, 2008 at 8:43 pm

    We cant even get their pitcher out

  27. lefty
    April 21st, 2008 at 8:44 pm

    Homer Bailey in the rotation?

  28. al
    April 21st, 2008 at 8:45 pm

    i’ve said it before and i’ll say it again, affeldt should start over belisle or fogg, 2 ST starts be damned. a left that throws 94 with that hook? i bet he can put up an ERA under 9 at the very least.

  29. Kerm
    April 21st, 2008 at 8:50 pm

    Our only one two offensive punch in Bako and EE strike again!!

  30. Kerm
    April 21st, 2008 at 8:50 pm

    followed by our least potent offensive threat off the bench

  31. Y-City Jim
    April 21st, 2008 at 8:56 pm

    Glad we insert Patterson to stifle any significant rally.

  32. Mike Martz
    April 21st, 2008 at 8:57 pm

    Ryan Freel does his best Tiger Woods impression. :sad:

  33. al
    April 21st, 2008 at 9:00 pm

    i never want to see josh fogg again

  34. DevilsAdvocate
    April 21st, 2008 at 9:01 pm

    Gee, Fogg is even worse as a reliever. Yikes.

  35. Y-City Jim
    April 21st, 2008 at 9:03 pm

    Mercy rule!

  36. Mike Martz
    April 21st, 2008 at 9:04 pm

    Somebody stop the bleeding! When do the REDS start playing like paid pro’s?
    I can’t believe it!

  37. Y-City Jim
    April 21st, 2008 at 9:05 pm

    How much of a hit do the Reds take when they finally designate Fogg for assignment?

  38. Mike Martz
    April 21st, 2008 at 9:06 pm

    Dusty needs to line ‘em up for batting practice and wind sprints after tonights game!

  39. Mike Martz
    April 21st, 2008 at 9:09 pm

    I wonder what the “Nasty Boys” are doing these days?

  40. preach
    April 21st, 2008 at 9:13 pm

    laughing at us, that’s what.

  41. Y-City Jim
    April 21st, 2008 at 9:14 pm

    While the pitchers are getting their brains beat in, I am more concerned with the continued anemic performance of this offense.

  42. Mike Martz
    April 21st, 2008 at 9:15 pm

    You’re probably right

  43. Mike Martz
    April 21st, 2008 at 9:19 pm

    Bring back Pete Rose. There’s no way on earth he bets on the REDS the way they’re playing!

  44. John
    April 21st, 2008 at 9:20 pm

    What is wrong with this team?!?!!??!?!

  45. Y-City Jim
    April 21st, 2008 at 9:23 pm

    For the most part, they cannot score runs. Every fifth day their starter gets pounded for a zillion runs.

  46. Y-City Jim
    April 21st, 2008 at 9:28 pm

    One of our few offensive pieces of brilliance delivers again!!!

  47. DevilsAdvocate
    April 21st, 2008 at 9:29 pm

    Chan Ho Park is still around? Had no idea.

  48. GregD
    April 21st, 2008 at 9:30 pm

    Affeldt can’t go more than 2 or 3 innings, so he’s out for a rotation spot.

  49. al
    April 21st, 2008 at 9:33 pm

    says who? i know he was a reliever, but unless you’ve heard it from him, i’m not willing to pass judgement. kriv thought he could start when he signed him.

  50. GregD
    April 21st, 2008 at 9:33 pm

    Phillips needs to spend some time in the 7th spot in the order, Kepp back to #2 and Encarnacion 5th.

  51. Y-City Jim
    April 21st, 2008 at 9:35 pm

    Freel finally does what a lead off hitter is supposed to do- get on base!

  52. Y-City Jim
    April 21st, 2008 at 9:36 pm

    Could Phillips be in any deeper of a funk?

  53. GregD
    April 21st, 2008 at 9:38 pm

    He couldn’t get stretched out during spring training, and he couldn’t go more than two innings in Fogg’s last start (that only lasted two innings.)

    Krivsky saying publicly that he was in the running for a rotation spot just went along with the pitch to get Affeldt on board.

  54. GregD
    April 21st, 2008 at 9:40 pm

    Re: Fogg - I’ve heard both $1 million and $400k. I’m not sure which is right without looking it up.

  55. GregD
    April 21st, 2008 at 9:43 pm

    Jim, I agree. I turned on this turd of a game at 5 to nothing, and I was more pissed about the nothing.

  56. DevilsAdvocate
    April 21st, 2008 at 9:47 pm

    Even looking it up you’ll find two different answers. When Fogg was signed, all the articles reported that he had been signed for $1mil base salary. Lately, though, all the listings of salaries I’ve seen have Fogg listed at 400k.

  57. GregD
    April 21st, 2008 at 9:49 pm

    That’s what I’m remembering DA, so I was surprised to see the mentions of 400k recently.

  58. Chris
    April 21st, 2008 at 9:59 pm

    I can’t believe a vet would be earning $400k. Just for the salary structure impact, if nothing else.

  59. al
    April 21st, 2008 at 10:11 pm

    Greg, you say affeldt couldn’t get stretched out in ST, i say he didn’t. He also only got 3 chances. if we’re willing to wait on hitters all spring, we should be willing to wait on pitchers too.

    problem was, the reds needed to make decisions because they had so many pitchers in camp, and 2 bad starts was a great excuse for them to cut down the rotation battle.

    all i’m saying now is that some of those starters that we saved room for (fogg and belisle) aren’t looking so good, and maybe you give the guy with arguably the best stuff, and the only lefty, a shot again.

    sure you can use the same argument against me in that it’s only been one start for belisle, but i’m just sick of watching him. even if affeldt got beat, at least it would be new.

  60. Y-City Jim
    April 21st, 2008 at 10:22 pm

    If the Reds are going to give Affeldt a legit shot then they should send him down to Louisville to get a few starts then bring him up when he is finally “stretched out.”

  61. Chris
    April 21st, 2008 at 10:24 pm

    I’m surprised at how little Affeldt has pitched, frankly.

  62. Y-City Jim
    April 21st, 2008 at 10:26 pm

    I think next Monday would be a good time to call up Jay Bruce and start him in CF against the Cardinals.

  63. Kerm
    April 21st, 2008 at 10:56 pm

    I am worried about Phillips trying to do too much at the plate simply because that is what harmed him in Cleveland. I understand that he has matured and proven himself much more, but he seems to be opened up before the ball even gets to the plate. I sure hope everyone else gets producing and he can settle down.

  64. Kevin
    April 22nd, 2008 at 12:23 am

    I think you’re right about Phillips, at least somewhat, because I remember at the end of last season, when he was really close to 30 home runs, he started swinging like that and he looked really bad everytime I saw him bat, and I remember Pete said in an interview that he wish BP’d just get to 30 so he’d quit wasting all those at-bats. I feel like for whatever reason, he’s been swinging like that again this year.

  65. Mike Martz
    April 22nd, 2008 at 5:01 am

    can the whole team bat 9′th?

  66. GregD
    April 22nd, 2008 at 9:08 am

    Affeldt hasn’t started in every game he pitched since he did it in AA back in 2001. Since then he’s made
    10 starts in AA/MLB in 2002
    18 starts with KC in 2003
    8 starts in 2004
    and 9 starts to begin 2006 after spending 2005 in the bullpen.

    Since making his first 9 appearances in 2006, he has been in a team’s bullpen. 128 straight appearances out of the bullpen pitching in only 121.1 innings.

    The Reds don’t need him in the rotation just because he’s a lefty. I’d rather see Bailey called up than Affeldt sent down, stretched out, then called back up.

  67. GregD
    April 22nd, 2008 at 9:36 am

    Kepp, Edwin, Votto, and Bako can bat 2, 3, 4, and 5. The rest of the team can bat 9th.

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