Comments on: Francisco Cordero: It’s Official

By: Dave from Louisville

Dave from Louisville — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 19:10:40 +0000

This was something that infuriated about player development and the management of the Bats last year. Because of the rotating door between Louisville and Cincy in last year’s bullpen. The Bats always had to keep there bullpen stacked with guys horrible guys like Soryilost, Magik man, Coffing up runs, and Stone Age. My point is that all the dead weight in the Bats pen created a log jam and guys in AA that should be progressing, couldn’t.

If Guevara becomes a good RP for some other team, keeping guys like Rick Stone will be the reason. Just thought I would vent, any comments?

By: babull

babull — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 08:16:08 +0000

“Guevara is going to be 26 next March and has never pitched above AA.”

For the last season and one-half I have been left wondering why he didn’t get a chance at AAA hitters. His numbers fully support him getting a shot. With the Reds sporting the worst bullpen in baseball, one would think he would get a look. Maybe there is something about him that the brass doesn’t like. My take is that the Reds will regret leaving him unprotected.

By: ChicagoRedsFan

ChicagoRedsFan — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 07:01:35 +0000

Guevara is going to be 26 next March and has never pitched above AA.

By: Dave from Louisville

Dave from Louisville — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 06:12:54 +0000

*protected

By: Dave from Louisville

Dave from Louisville — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 06:12:14 +0000

Check this out editors of the site……
Guevara listed as one of the Best options available in the Rule 5…..wonder why he wasn’t protested?? Somebody start a thread!!!!
http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/prospects/news/265252.html

By: Chris

Chris — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 04:01:40 +0000

A Santana trade doesn't happen unless the Reds give up Phillips or maybe EE and Bruce and Cueto. And are ready to shell out the $160M it will take to resign him. (The Twins expect a current semi-star, plus prospects.) They also don't really need young pitching, even after trading Garza. Haren's interesting, but I really don't think the Reds are going to make that bit a splash after coughing up for Cordero (and Baker). One name I've heard elsewhere, but not here, is Scott Rolen. I like him, but he's brittle, and might be about to age rapidly. More, I really like EE.

By: Josh

Josh — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 22:56:04 +0000

Leatherpants…I never tire of that one.

By: Dan

Dan — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 20:53:49 +0000

Wow… Belisle pitched 180 IP in the Braves system at age 20… and then, surprise, missed all of his age 21 season w/ an arm injury.

He returned at age 22 and was pretty good again by age 23… but his K rate has never been the same.

K rate pre-injury about 8 K per 9 IP.

K rate post-injury more like 6 K per 9 IP (granted, at higher levels of competition).

Anyway… interesting.

And one thing I will give LARGE props to both O’Brien and Krivsky on — knock on wood — is cutting down on major arm injuries to young pitchers. Can anyone find those numbers? I think they have been WAY down since the days of Leatherpants.

By: Dan

Dan — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 20:48:58 +0000

Question: How would we feel about committing to a rotation of…

Harang
Arroyo
Belisle
Bailey
Cueto
Maloney

(I list 6 guys b/c some starters always always always miss some starts.)

Is that just a huge mistake? Thoughts?

Bailey’s career high in IP is about 140.

Maloney’s is about 170.

Cueto’s is about 160.

I think the rule of thumb is, don’t let young pitchers increase their maximum IP by more that 10% a year.

By: Travis G.

Travis G. — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 20:32:18 +0000

I’d love to have Haren, but I think you’d have to include Homer or Bruce. I don’t think EdE-Hamilton-Cueto/Maloney gets that done.

It seems like Wolf’s drawn enough interest that he’ll get overpaid by someone, but I could see Prior coming here if he’s as close to Dusty as we keep hearing.

I’ve gotta think that there’s another move planned to net a quality SP. You don’t spend that much on a closer and leave the rotation a man short.

By: Snake

Snake — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 20:21:00 +0000

I like Wolf and Prior…1 year deals with incentives and club options for the 2nd years. It entirely depends on the money.

By: David

David — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 20:08:19 +0000

Dan Haren is another possibility instead of Blanton. I love Haren’s BAA with RISP .181 compared to Johan at .219. With bases loaded Haren is .111 while Santana is .375. Neither guy is great with G/F Santana is actually worse than Haren’s career 1.29 with .88. Why pay top dollar for one year of Santana, most likely, when you could pay less for Haren and have him for three years before he becomes FA eligible.

By: Dan

Dan — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 19:59:54 +0000

The only FA starting pitcher who has the upside to possibly be worth it is Randy Wolf, IMHO… of course I’ve read that the Phillies are trying hard to get him back, so even he might get some major $$$.

By: Travis G.

Travis G. — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 19:04:14 +0000

You know, I looked a little more closely at Blanton’s numbers, and he is indeed an above-average innings-eater. No need to give up quality prospects and swallow Chavez and his contract for that.

Just out of curiosity, what FA pitchers would you like the Reds to sign?

By: Snake

Snake — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 18:12:04 +0000

Joe Blanton is overrated IMO. Giving up some of our best prospects for him doesn’t sit too well with me. I’d rather see the Reds sign a free agent pitcher to an incentive laden deal.