I think that illustrates what we might get with him well though. He could be solid, or he could be a disaster. As I said in the piece, it’ll probably all depend on whether he can avoid the high walk totals he uncharacteristically showed last year. -j
I think the risk of getting a Turnbow or a Lidge in an up year is worth the shot. Yeah, he’s probably too young to be put in names like that, but we need pitchers who can grow up fast.
Turnbow is a guy I’ve been thinking about lately, with all the talk about “the bullpen needs a power arm.” First, I wonder why they all forgot about Todd Coffey. Second, I wonder if “power arm” is really anything special. I’d prefer Hoffman or Rivera to Turnbow or Benitez, obviously. Shaw and Brantley (and even this lady) were pretty effective, and neither threw hard. Meanwhile, jokers like Marc Kroon throw gas, but were utterly useless.
yeah he did, i never knew why they cut bait on him so fast. Didn’t he have like 3.80 ERA with the reds when they dropped him? and he gave up a granny if i recall, which is a huge mistake sure, but means he was probably decent other times.
anyway, enough about yan. i’ve always been under the impression that a “power pitcher” was something different than a hard thrower, or at least a specific type of hard thrower.
Like coffey. he throws pretty hard, but he’s not really a power pitcher, because his stuff lends itself to groundballs more than k’s. he doesn’t have the stuff, or know how to use his stuff in a way, to be a real power guy.
is this just some idea i have, or is this fairly accepted?
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A comparison to Turnbow in 2005 would be great; 2006…not so much.
We’ve been needing a heat thrower in that bullpen for a while so hopefully this will work out well. Good move.
I think that illustrates what we might get with him well though. He could be solid, or he could be a disaster. As I said in the piece, it’ll probably all depend on whether he can avoid the high walk totals he uncharacteristically showed last year. -j
I think the risk of getting a Turnbow or a Lidge in an up year is worth the shot. Yeah, he’s probably too young to be put in names like that, but we need pitchers who can grow up fast.
Turnbow is a guy I’ve been thinking about lately, with all the talk about “the bullpen needs a power arm.” First, I wonder why they all forgot about Todd Coffey. Second, I wonder if “power arm” is really anything special. I’d prefer Hoffman or Rivera to Turnbow or Benitez, obviously. Shaw and Brantley (and even this lady) were pretty effective, and neither threw hard. Meanwhile, jokers like Marc Kroon throw gas, but were utterly useless.
That said, I agree that they need variety down there.
Let me amend my statement to “one more gas guy”.
As far as Coffey, it looks like he hasn’t been throwing as hard lately. I don’t think his velocity has been quite as high. Correct me if I’m wrong.
Esteban Yan threw gas.
yeah he did, i never knew why they cut bait on him so fast. Didn’t he have like 3.80 ERA with the reds when they dropped him? and he gave up a granny if i recall, which is a huge mistake sure, but means he was probably decent other times.
anyway, enough about yan. i’ve always been under the impression that a “power pitcher” was something different than a hard thrower, or at least a specific type of hard thrower.
Like coffey. he throws pretty hard, but he’s not really a power pitcher, because his stuff lends itself to groundballs more than k’s. he doesn’t have the stuff, or know how to use his stuff in a way, to be a real power guy.
is this just some idea i have, or is this fairly accepted?