Loading ...It’s a repeat of last year. If they don’t get rid of David “Graves” Weathers, I think my head is going to explode.
I fully anticipate Edwin Encarnacion and someone else to be traded for crappy relief pitching within a week or two.
Rather than starting a new thread, I’m just hijacking Chad’s post-game post to link to some really interesting from Rosecrans’ post-game blog:
Also, asked Jerry why Castro [pinch-hitting in the ninth], he seemed peeved at the question. Said he thought he was the best chance to get on base. He didn’t want to use Javy without someone on base. Of course, not using Javy meant no one got on base.
Asked him about Junior, and again he seemed upset with the question, saying Junior wasn’t even in the ballpark. Last I saw Junior he was asleep on the couch in the clubhouse, so I didn’t know. That’s why you ask questions, so you can get answers to things you don’t know.
Postgame 2: So, I had another question. Went down saw Jerry and asked, “Is Conine hurt?” He said, “I’ll talk to you tomorrow.” Conine hasn’t played for the last three days — which is easy to disguise when you’re facing righties all those days. But when you send up Juan Castro to pinch hit instead of Conine, well, that brings it into question. Maybe he wasn’t happy I went down after we all talked to him, and perhaps that is against protocol. But, I made a promise to myself once that I will never be outworked. And I’ve got to be true to myself. That’s what I call playing the game the right way, if you will.
Please don’t tell me this is going to be a repeat of 2005 and 2006, where I have to choose between having a stroke or turning the Reds off after 7 ininings.
Its a good thing that I’m not a GM because I’d be firing pitchers right and left.
Why do we watch this team, again?
This is ridiculous…seriousley
Anyone else getting the feeling that things might be getting away from Narron? The “hustle controversy” now the problems with the media?
This was every bit as bad as the Danny Graves meltdown against the Cards a couple of years ago. The way Marty and Thom were talking all of the bullpen pitchers were throwing meatballs up there for Houston hitters to feast on.
First the Java Man implodes, now Stormy Weathers!!! It’s not like they didn’t have 3-4 months from Oct.-Feb. to address these needs.
I hope Eddie G gets well SOON!!!! and I hope Kriv doesn’t make another stupid trade to “bolster” the bullpen. If he trades for a pitcher, make it a starter and send Milton to the pen – or to pasture.
Is Majewski ready?
Or how about a Salmon?
Is it too late to send Saarloos back to Oakland for Shafer? (Shafer had better numbers than Coutlangus last year.)
“I thought Josh iced the game,” Arroyo said. “But obviously not.”
I’m afraid everyone else did, too, and that’s why no more Reds runs scored after that HR.
The difference between this year and last is that we have help down in the minors. Livingston and others are all better options than what we have.
So it’s not time to jump off the Titanic quite yet.
agreed, it’s early, and not time to freak out yet. But if i were in the pen, i would be very interested in getting my act togetehr, with all of the names taht have been mentioned already, plus people like EZ and Bray.
the season won’t be ruined in 1 month (i hope) and that’s about how long these dudes have to get it together before a bunch of people start to come calling.
majewski will probably be first.
what are they going to do with cormier? he’s got no role on this team.
Cormier kinda had a role for a couple weeks there as the “face one lefty hitter, then pass the ball to the next relief guy” guy. But then he comes in to face two righties, who tee off on him.
Strange.
What does Narron mean that Griffey wasn’t in the ballpark? Huh?
As far as the bullpen we simply don’t have a closer, anywhere. I think Weathers would be fine in a set-up role (his numbers were pretty damn good after the all-star break in that role), but I’m not a Coffey fan or Cormier fan at all. I think Saarloos and Stanton can be solid guys too, but there is no closer.
As far as bringing up the trade with the Nats for the 1,0000000000000 time I don’t miss Lopez at all and where in the hell would Kearns play? We already are struggling getting enough time for our four outfielders. I like the idea of having Freel platoon everywhere and giving different guys days off.
Good point. Not to rehash the trade either, but looking forward (not back) I’d much rather have Hamilton long term than Kearns. In the light of a massive roster turnover under Kriv, even in the outfield he’s improved the team, and that was a strength to begin with.
With Kearns and Lopez, the bench was Aurilia and Freel. Without Kearns and Lopez, the bench players are thrust into a starter’s role and you’re left with Hoppers and Castros on the bench.
Sarloos is overmatched as a setup man. He’ll be in middle relief when Majik is ready. Same thing for Frenchy, Bray will take his spot. Looks like we’re gonna have to ride this Storm(y) out.
I’d rather have good starters.
I’d rather have good starters and a good bench.
If Griffey is suffering from the flu, he doesn’t serve much purpose coming to the ballpark, other than to infect the rest of the team (not a good outcome)
Rick and Sultan, the point isn’t: “We have Hamilton now, and he’s better than Kearns, so I can’t complain about the trade” (though let’s be careful about annointing anyone after 2 weeks of a season, no matter how much fun it’s been).
I was never absolutely against trading either guy. The point has alwasy been that Kearns and Lopez were the club’s most valuable trading chips, and the Kriv shipped both of them off for junk (+ Bray). A better deal should’ve been made.
Chris, I have to disagree with you. Lopez is, quite simply, one of the worst infielders in the major leagues. Thank goodness he is off this team. Kearns has potential, but had never played a complete season at the time of the Trade. I know the injuries weren’t all his fault. He is a good defender, but in five major league seasons, he doesn’t have much to show for it offensively.
So you think Majewski, Bray, and Royce Clayton was a good return, then?
Lopez can’t even play for the Nationals. Kearns is way overrated. I think we traded one bad player and one average player for one bad player, one mediocre reliever and one pitcher that has a chance to be prety good.
I think in the long run the Kearns/ Lopez/Majewski/Bray trade will be a bunch of “sound and fury signifying nothing”. When its all said and done, none of the players in that trade are going to pan out to be the ballplayers they were thought to have been. That trade will not help the Reds fix their bullpen problems and it won’t have brought the Nats any messurable improvement in their club. I’m chalking that trade up to a waste of time.
Don’t re-write history. The Trade was made to improve the bullpen in order to win in 2006. Majewski and Bray did not improve the bullpen, and the Reds did not win.
Since The Trade Krivsky has been able to move minor league pitching for major league relievers, which makes the move of 25% of your starting lineup look even worse.
No need to rewrite history, its there for the reading. Neither team accomplished anything with that trade.
Exactly. The Reds didn’t accomplish anything with that trade, and they made themselves worse.
The Nationals wouldn’t accomplish anything if they traded nothing for Johan Santana, so I’m not sure how the impact on the Nats have any bearing on the discussion.
Greg, I don’t know that we are that far apart in our thinking. The Reds traded two players away, that in my opinion, were not that valuable to our team. In return the team received a group of players who are not that valuable to our team.
I just think this trade is going to go down as one of those that no one remembers in a couple of years.