Loading ...Lancaster reports that the Reds have traded for Sun Woo Kim (and cash) for a PTBNL, if any remain in the organization. Blah, blah, blah, may start, or may relieve, etc., etc.
They’re going to have to conduct a mini-expansion draft this winter, just to disburse all the PTBNLs they owe.
This organization is exhausting.
Oh yeah, I’ve heard of that guy… he was the onepitching for Japan in the little league World Series… at this point even that wouldn’t surprise me
Excellent!
I was just thinking to myself the other day, ‘You know, if we could just add anoter mediocre pitcher, I think it would put this team over the top.’
hahaha… that strategy has worked so far, right??? Well one thing is for sure, all this wheelin’ & dealin’ is not going to stop here. I expect a busy (and fun) offseason. Look forward to discussing all the sub-par over-the-hill pitchers we manage to aquire. I think maybe Krivsky has been looking at the Reds wishlist from 1996. Next decade is in the file below Wayne, jeez.
I really do hope they can somehow manage to pick up a big name free agent this offseason. This ownership at least lets you believe them when they say they are trying to win. Exciting stuff…
Lancaster reports that the Reds have traded for Sun Woo Kim (and cash) for a PTBNL, if any remain in the organization.
At least he’s trying something. Better than simply letting it all fall to dust… like some other guys we know/knew. This is really the only thing available currently… because anybody better would’ve already been claimed.
As long as there is no hesitation later when the opportunity arises to snag someone more worthwhile with a heftier paycheck, I say, “Why not?” The season is pretty much over for the Reds…
How about trading for a bat? don’t the Reds have enough so-so pitchers?
Why trade for something that’s no better than what you have now?
Somebody called him a “mediocre pitcher”… mediocre??? That is being far too kind to him.. His ML stats are horrible.. I have supported Krivsky all season, but this is getting totally ridiculous. It is beginning to look like every major league GM knows they can at least get something from guys they would release if they call the Reds first. Can’t get David Wells because there was actually a market for him… but we can get the guys nobody else wants. Wow, what a great GM you must be to achieve that.
i agree that kriv is probably going to finish the job he’s started this year once the season is over. i just hope he’s able to bring a little more strategy and organization to the team once he has the offseason to plan things out.
I’m hoping that much of the desperate grabbing has been due to trying to patch holes along the way, rather than working from a blueprint. right now, it’s hard to know who the reds are any more or what they need.
Wallaman, it’s not that he’s trying “something.” It’s that he’s trying everything. How is Narron even supposed to do his job, when he’s essentially been managing an ever-rotating 20-man pitching staff since July?
Is there some rule that prevents the Reds from promoting their minor leaguers?
You’d think, at some point, Krivsky would want to reward/try one of his own guys, rather than trading for guys who – yes, they’ve been in the major leagues, but have been utterly terrible for all of recent history.
Lancaster now reporting that Sun-Woo Kim will START tomorrow against the Giants. Jason Johnson (who was suspected to start) will also be brought up to fill the long-relief void. At this point, what the hell… roll those dice one more time. “C’mon Seven!!!”
HERE is the link to that report.
Enough of the acquisitions! We win or lose with what we got. I think there will be blockbuster trade this offseason for a top starter in exchange for all these bozos we keep picking up plus Todd Hollandsworth.
I sure hope they are burning up a 40-man spot on the roster by bringing up Johnson.
Maybe this will be Katie Couric’s lead story on her debut tonight.
I sure hope you are right on the offseason blockbuster Jim. Here’s to that and here’s to a Reds win tonight as well. Off to the game for me. They are 13-9 when I have been in attendance thus far this season, so hopefully that record will improve tonight. Someone please tell me that Walk the Line by Johnny Cash is not STILL the running “song of the game”. Be back with you all for the recap.
Before I leave… I was pondering the “song of the game” thing and how the audience votes via loudest cheer for which song they want. Perhaps they should employ this technique in selecting the next arm to take the mound. As Narron has had trouble selecting the right guy, a Philbin-esque “Ask the Audience” just might be in order. Could you imagine something like that??? This my friends, the dawn of fan-management.
Chris @ 5:14:
I realize Krivsky has played the rotating door of retreads this year but, to be quite honest, that’s what we are left with if we even dream of trying to keep the season afloat.
If another one of these guys can manage to get a good outing or three, it might just be all we need. Then we cut’em loose at season’s end to make room for siginificant signings.
Honestly, I don’t understand why people are complaining so much when Kriv’s trying everything under the sun with the limited resources we’re stuck with to get this team sparked again. Why should we settle for falling into oblivion when we can test a couple of guys out to see if a “change of scenary” might be the ticket to success?
Even if they don’t work out, we’re not any worse off. If they do, we’re better off.
I’m beginning to believe most Reds fans would rather assume the worst and stay “comfortable” believing that the Reds will always make the wrong move or that they’ll always fall short no matter how hard they play. It’s just easier to give in to the losing attitude rather than show a little patience and faith.
Maybe some of the PTBNL will be the earlier acquisitions for PTBNL.
So what’s the new pitcher? Me-So Suc?
Bets on how long the new guy last in tomorrow’s start?
Of course, if he were pitching against the Reds tomorrow night he might throw a three-hitter.
Hey, his ERA is under 20.00 (just barely), what more do you want?
Even if they don’t work out, we’re not any worse off. If they do, we’re better off.
What? We’re not any worse off for wasting time on retreads? Are the games started by guys like Joe Mays not counting anymore? We are definitely worse off for him getting four starts.
How do we know that nobody already in the system could’ve done better? Maybe we’d have developed/uncovered a guy who actually has the potential to be more than a #6 starter. Maybe Justin Germano was that guy. Maybe Dave Williams was that guy. Maybe Josh Hall, or Travis Chick would’ve done better.
I just expect more than “Management by Chance,” where the Reds give every available pitcher a whirl, but only if they’ve pitched (poorly) for another team.
Yeah, he hit paydirt with Lohse, but is there any reason to believe that’s anything other than the odds finally evening out (given 10 crappy pitchers, one of them will put 4 consecutive good outings together). Hell, even the Arroyo trade looks lucky, in retrospect.
You know, Luke Hudson is quitely putting together a decent season over in Kansas City. Considering he’s a Royal and goes up against some pretty good teams I’d say he’s even looked good. I’d gladly take him over Mays, Johnson, Williams, Franklin… etc.,etc.,…. He could have been a 15 game winner in the NL Central this year.
And don’t get me started on Josh Hancock.
How do you know any in our system is capable of better? MLB experience always trumps prospect status… especially when the “prospects” are barely that to begin with. If there was a real prospect who was ready, he’d be here. Noticed the lack of good prospect pitcher in Louisville? They’re all in Chat. or lower… and he’s not going to go to someone without any MLB experience this late in the year.
Honestly, you sound a little sullied from the last five years. Lighten up a bit. The GM is at least trying to win this thing. May not be pretty but since when has this team been pretty. This is at least more interesting than counting the days until Palmer-time.
I know you’re trying to see the bright side, etc., but I’m simply not going to buy in to statements like “experience always trumps prospect status,” when we’re talking about terrible major league pitchers. Terrible. Would you like to see Jimmy Haynes or Jimmy Anderson back? Because both of those guys have experience.
And what about Dave Williams? He had experience, was young(ish), and has actually pitched well this century. Yet he was quite literally thrown away for nothing.
And yeah, I’m very sullied from 9 terrible years in the last 10.
Why not go with an Arroyo-Harang-Lohse-Milton four man rotation the rest of the year? You have a 37 man bullpen… they only need to go 5-6 innings each start… if they give up 3 runs or less in those innings, I will take that over Doo Koo Kim (wait…thats the dude Boom Boom Mancini killed in the ring…) or whoever the “Castoff of the Day” is.
Don’t get me wrong… Kim is a dud, as far as his numbers go… but there is no one else on the team who has earned the spot. It’s as much as a risk as Michalak or Johnson.
*So why don’t we use either of those two?*
Good question… but no definative answers here. I won’t even pretend.
I’d actually rather see Johnson go. He’s got the better chance at success considering the AL to NL factor.
He’s also got a pretty good GO ratio.
BTW, just because Williams is performing better somewhere else does not mean he was just an outing or two from breaking out for us. He’s still very hittable and an extreme flyballer. Not a good mix at GABP. Plus, he’s got superb D behind him now. That can make almost any pitcher look good.
Wait, you mean he’s not starting as part of a mass marriage promotion at GABP? That’s someone *else*?
Bronson pitched a gem tonight with 4 days rest. With less than 4 weeks to go and 3 off days, just go with a 4 man rotation and let these other cast-off pitchers do an inning of relief now and then.
I had no problem with pulling Williams from the rotation. It’s dumping him for absolutely nothing, when he still had options left, that confused and frustrated me. Joe Mays is still at Louisville, despite taking a beating every place, and every year other than 2001. Williams had a nice little career going, got beat up this spring, and was thrown out like a dirty diaper.
Is Ryan Franklin too valuable in the bullpen to give a couple of spot starts in the 5th slot of the rotation? He has an ERA under 5 and been a starter most of his career. As someone else pointed out, the expanded rosters gives the Reds a deep bullpen, so every 5th day can be bullpen day if Franklin can only go 3-4 innings.