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ST. LOUIS — The Reds have acquired left-hander Scott Schoeneweis from Toronto for a player to be named or cash.
I think this is 7 lefthanders this team has on the active roster now. How many do you need? And his ERA is 6.51 and his WHIP is 1.45? What’s the point in getting this guy?
Is Krivsky a “trading addict”? Does he not have the ability to say, “No, thanks, I’ll pass.”
someone needs to check krivsky into rehab.
he must have hated most of the players in the reds farms system (probably reasonable) because he’s shipping them out in droves.
this is getting a bit obessive
I’m starting to have a real hard time keeping up with the names in the bullpen. Jeeze.
“How many do you need?”
Is there a reason why its bad to have more than 2 or 3 lefties in the pen? It seems like the best combination in the bullpen would be to have a closer, then an equal number of righties and lefties.
Or is the problem that we have too many LOOGY guys?
Dear Wayne,
We want QUALITY not QUANTITY!
Please cease stockpiling mediocre arms for our bullpen.
Yours,
Gapper
I would guess that there are more RH hitters in baseball than LH, thus you’d want more RH relief pitchers than LH. The Reds have 5 LHP in the pen and 3 RHP, by my count.
Also, this article states, Schoeneweis is the seventh pitcher acquired in the last six weeks by the Reds, who have stayed in playoff contention by remaking their bullpen.
Does anyone think they’ve stayed in the hunt b/c of the trades Krivsky’s made to “improve” the bullpen?
partially…yes
there are several games that it seems like the old bullpen would have blown in the blink of an eye but some combination out of the pen has kept the lead when another pitcher got in trouble.
and having a good number of lefties IS good but not too many, most of today’s power hitters are left handed and tear apart righties, but i think it should be 4-4…not 5 lefties 3 righties but w/e works i guess
that’s also the reason i think one of the lefties (looks like michalak) should get a shot at the spot in the rotation that EZ left, that way it’ll even out the R/L split in the pen a little more
I’ve seen numbers that STL has a horrendous record against lefties (starters) and a very good one against right-handers. But we’re done with them after tomorrow afternoon.
Except I didn’t count Michalak as a reliever, since he’s starting Saturday.
I think this might have something to do with Eddie G’s health as well. He might be every week Eddie.
I think we should only be worried when Wayne acquires Danny Graves….
Right- coffey franklin weathers
Left – bray guardado cormier shack schoeneweis (how the hell do u pronounce that)
obviously they won’t do anything with *new guy* until/if he gets battered around, so the only lefty they even have the choice to send down is shack (no way would they demote brayski) but if they sent shack down and brought standridge back up, his role (righty for long relief) has been taken by franklin
if anybody has R/L stats on each of these pitchers it might give a better idea of why there ARE so many lefties because i sure havent seen a lefty-lefty matchup come up during a game 5 times
also…i’ve given some thought to the aurilia everyday at short idea, and as great as it sounds the only thing that worries me is the bench, how confident are u in the ninth down a run with the bases loaded and 2 outs (or any other big situation) and your options are larue valentin hole-in-his-batworth clayton and castro……i’d MUCH rather see aurilia come to plate in a pinch hit situation right there even though castro has been hitting the ball well..how long will that last
So, what you’re saying is you’d rather have Aurilia bat 1 time and Castro bat 3 times, than vice versa…
I’m not sure how this helps us. Someone “splain”.
Not exactly Bill, but I AM saying in a game changing situation I’d much rather see Aurilia, and if Castro is hittin 8th he won’t bring down the offense and he is a great defender, nobody can deny that. But he’s hitting the ball well, over .300 I know, as long as that lasts and who knows how long that could be, maybe not very long, I think he at least deserves a share of the time at short with Rich, then when Castro is in the Reds have a threat off the bench, Clayton can just chill in the dugout for the rest of the season for all I care, I’d rather see Milton pinch hit, at least that philosophy is 1-1.
Glenn you won’t get an answer…nobody knows
I forgot a roster move will have to be made for Schoeneweis to be placed on the 25 man roster, I think it’ll obviously be Shack making it 4 lefties and 3 righties, I don’t have much of a problem with that, especially if one of those lefties (guardado if healthy) is going to be a closer only type role that makes it 3-3 and it makes sense, but this guy’s numbers are all that spectacular so we’ll see.
aren’t* spectacular
Picking up guardado was huge, the reds needed someone to go 7/7 in saves really badly. the rest of these moves seem like rearanging deck chairs on the titanic, no significant upgrades in quality except for maybe bray, whose been rough lately and came at such a high cost.
Still, in the end, what this team needs is better starts. Research has shown such a high correlation between the amount a bullpen is used and the quality of the bullpen, and people forget that. Good pens are often just the ones that don’t pitch much.
To that end I think Harang or Arroyo should have be shelved for a couple weeks, they both just look gassed. Look at the two guys who’ve been decen the last couple weeks, Milton and Lohse. Both of them have way fewer innings so far this year.
I think across the league you can see more fatigue this year (PED?) and both our top guys gave so many innings out of the gate. If Belisle is ready to go now, I’d DL one of them depending on Arroyo’s start tonight and let Belisle start a few times, then bring back a rested top guy for the stretch run and send back whoever was better between Belisle and Mich. I doubt Belisle would be much worse than what we saw from Harang last night, and throwing 95, he could have a nice little run of 2/3 run starts.
I just found a VERY interesting stat on Schoeneweis. vs Righties ERA – 10.50
vs Lefties ERA – 2.79
If he can be used for apparently lefty/lefty matchups only then it looks like he may be ok, I’ll just hold my breath anytime he faces a righty.
Schoeneweis…ahead in count 0.00 ERA
behind in count 12.75
Has anybody ever seen a split THAT drastic for a guy falling behind in the count?
Makes me think he’s never been ahead in the count…
haha…I thought the same thing, but according to the stat he’s been ahead in the count slightly more often, go figure.
Put the best team on the field.
Is it 5 o’clock yet?
Dear Jerry Narron,
Your supportive fan base (of the team, not really you, sorry :roll:) would really appreciate seeing the starting lineup that you fielded this past sunday. It worked quite well and i believce most would agree it is the best that can be put out there. Please have some sense and go with what works. Clayton, LaRue, Pitcher doesn’t work all that well, if you haven’t noticed. Thank you very much.
Sincerely,
The Collective RedLegNation
So…..did the trading deadline really end?
How about we package an entire mediocre bullpen up for a quality number 3 (hopefully) type of starter, then maybe we won’t have to go to the pen so much….Just a thought.
amen
The Cards feed put up a graphic of highest career averages against the Cardinals last night. Guess who was third at .444? I’ll give you a hint: it wasn’t Royce Clayton, it was the guy who should have been playing short last night.
Scott Schoeneweis is our Mercker replacement it would appear. Situational lefty type. Krivsky couldn’t make any more deals before the end of the season could he??? He has to have set some sort of record…
Thanks for the explanation, Bill.
Anyone know the bullpen’s pre and post trade numbers?
Back to Bill’s original post: Scott Schoeneweis (she-ne-wis, perhaps?) – situational, veteran lefty with playoff experience to replace Kent Mercker – situational lefty with playoff experience. Looks to be that simple, whether it’s a smart move or not.
And yes, it seems Krivsky does NOT have the ability to say “no”. Again, smart move or not, I’m not bright enough to speculate.
Blue,
Chris has #s, charts, graphs, scouting reports, you want it, he’s got it. If you look maybe a week or two back in the threads he posted pre and post trade graphs. I’m sure he will get around to updating them at some point too, because Chris is just that damn dedicated.
looks like the relievers before the break put up a 5.08 ERA (140 ER/248 IP) and a 3.81 ERA (43 ER/101.2 IP) after the break.
If nothing else, it sends a message to the guys on the field that management gives a shit about more than just immediate bankroll… they want to win knowing that future profits will be increased by producing a winning ballclub. When players see management not acting as they are tetering on the edge of making post-season, things like this happen. Krivsky has certainly sent his fair share of “memos” to the clubhouse this season.
starters pre break: 4.59 ERA
starters post break: 5.35 ERA
Pretty sure his name is pronounced
show’ en wice
He was a part of the amazing bullpen (swingman) of the 2002 world champ Angels. Though he was not so much responsible for it being amazing.
i’ve always heard it pronounced shawn(as in shawn green) weiss(as in walt wiess)
going into 2006 lefties have a career line of .227/.297/.298 vs he.
While he may be a replacement for Merker, he has started games in three seasons, the latest by the White Sox if I’m not mistaken. He didn’t fair too great there but may be helpful down the stretch in that capacity in case of injury.
Shone Weiss
He should not even be remotely considered to start a game–career 5.33 ERA as a starter.
I didn’t say it was a good option, I said that if injury, etc. occurs it gives the Reds an option.
Hey, I hope somebody reads this that can answer this question…
I just heard that the Reds are going to bring back Royal blue to the uniforms like they had in the early 1900’s. Any truth to this, and where can I see what it will look like?
I’d eventually like to see a list of all the guys we’ve traded away since Aug. 1, and then speculate what kind of a decent starting pitcher we could’ve gotten for that group.
You know, when I was sitting at home, thinking about how the Reds could improve the pitching staff, the first name I thought of was “Schoeneweis”. We’ve got to go out and get Schoeneweis. That will fix everything!
Glenn … I truly hope you are joking
Regarding the question about royal blue in the Reds uniforms, here is a link that shows the history of all MLB team uniforms.
http://www.baseballhalloffame.org/exhibits/online_exhibits/dressed_to_the_nines/database.htm
Also here specifically is the Reds uniform with royal blue road uniforms.
http://www.baseballhalloffame.org/exhibits/online_exhibits/dressed_to_the_nines/uniforms.asp?league=NL&city=Cincinnati&lowYear=&highYear=&sort=year&increment=9
Looks like from 1900- 1903 they had the royal blue road uniforms, also if you click forward you will see some more royal blue from 1909 – 1911 and 1913.
oops sorry, didn’t know my post would screw up the page like that.
Yes, Jay I am joking.