Loading ...The Reds attempt to take game three of this four-game set with the Rocks tonight, and the chances are pretty good, one would think, with Bronson Arroyo on the mound for the good guys. The chances would be better if Castro and Clayton were both on the bench. We’ll see….
Unfortunately, the Cardinals are pretty hot, so we have to win tonight to keep pace. But…you can do it, Reds!
Well, I just checked and Clayton is playing and batting 7th.
Lineup for the Reds:
Denorfia RF
Dunn LF
Junior CF
Aurilia 3B
Hatteberg 1B
Phillips 2B
Clayton SS
LaRue C
Arroyo P
For the Rocks:
Carroll 2B
Sullivan CF
Helton 1B
Holliday LF
Atkins 3B
Hawpe RF
Torrealba C
Quintanilla SS
Cook P
Man, that’s a bad lineup.
Why the hell isn’t Aurilia playing SS, with Encarnacion at third and Clayton on the bench?
Narron is a moron. And I can’t believe how much this organization undervalues a future star like Edwin Encarnacion. Why can’t they just stick him in the lineup every day and let him play?
Good question, Jimmy. I wish I knew the answer.
EdE isn’t hurt again is he? I hadn’t heard anything like that.
I don’t think he’s hurt. I just think Narron doesn’t like him.
How long until he’s traded for a mediocre relief pitcher?
Narron is a complete Moron with a capital M. HE should be traded.
p.s. Majewski and Bray are not mediocre, so get over that.
p.s. but Aurilia takes the term mediocre to an all new level for the last 2 years. Actually I think the word I’m looking for is vanilla
Ummm…who said Majewski and Bray are mediocre?
No, they’re not mediocre. They’re above-average, but just barely.
They’re closer to mediocre than they are to being stars. But I’ll take above-average relievers any day. I like these guys.
They weren’t worth what Krivsky paid for them, but I’m not unhappy to have them on the roster.
ugh i’m so sick of hearing about this trade! we don’t know if Krisky went for more talented Relief Pitchers or what not. But what team that is not in the playoff picture has great relivers! So lets just wait and see what happens.
The Bad Boy is talking to Krivsky on the radio now.
Krivsky is very defensive.
Short interview with him, but he sounded to me like he was worried that he had made a mistake.
Let’s all hope he didn’t.
Okay, Krivsky is back after the commercial break with more comments.
He actually said that Clayton can replace Lopez.
Wow, he just said that Clayton is an upgrade at shortstop. I’ve lost all faith in that guy.
An upgrade. Sheesh. I can’t believe he said that. Does he think we’re stupid?
I can see how this trade can be defended, but saying that Clayton is an upgrade is a flat-out lie…or he just doesn’t know any better, which is worse.
He’s feeling the heat, big-time, but to his credit, he tried to answer the hard questions that people are asking. Bad Boy said he’d let him off the hot seat now.
daedalus, I just saw your comment over at Red Reporter. Hilarious:
“EdE just suffers from Narronitis.”
So true.
So if the reds make another move, I think EdE will be the next to leave.
he said clayton was an upgrade defensively.
Narron sucks!!! They need to move him and his freakish voice off to the Cub organization where losers belong!!!!
I hate these 6 pm Saturday games (unless I’m in town for the game), because the blackout on the game doesn’t end until 7 pm, which means you miss the first hour of the game on Extra Innings and MLB.tv
Yeah, I just noticed the “upgrade” remark!! “HOLY CRAP” was he serious? Has he ever watched Clayton play?
This goes far beyond stupidity, he may be a conjoined twin with Narron!!??!!
He said Clayton was an upgrade overall. He then went on to explain that he was an upgrade defensively, and a little worse than Lopez offensively…but the tenor of his comments were that Clayton was an overall upgrade.
That’s the way I heard it, too, Jimmy.
I’d say the Kriv is correct in saying that Clayton is an upgrade at shortstop, just not at the plate. Lopez had a big head, few real instincts at short stop – not tagging a guy on a steal, missing bags on DPs and tossing sure outs into the seats behind first base. Clayton has 7 Es this year, Lopez commited his 15th nor the Nats last night (glad it finally wasn’t for the Reds). So thats about a 50% upgrade. Not sure how to compensate for his streaky bat, tho.
Kearns I’m not happy about losing, but I’m much happier with turning the game over to guys who can strike people out that watching Kearns or Lopez for that matter whiffing with runners in scoring position with 2 out.
I’m in the camp of letting this thing play out and see if we get to the playoffs and if Kearns and Lopez tear it up in DC. I’m really tired of the Krivisky has “destroyed the reds”/”worst trade ever” talk. It won’t be proven or disproven for months. And it’ll be considered a success if the Reds make the playoffs. It was a success last night (save a run).
Go Reds. I’ll be a fan whom ever is on the team. As long as they win.
I think Clayton has 12 errors this year, including a terrible one last night.
I’m not convinced he’s even an upgrade in the field. Maybe slightly.
EXACTLY!!!!
Cry about the trade no longer, its over, just root for the Reds, or go cry every year for the rest of your life for a team like the CUBS or PIRATES!!!
And actually, I’ll be a fan even if they don’t win. They’re my team.
CLAYTON SUCKS….oh wait he got a hit tonight, I change my mind totally…er…wait….no he still sucks, but I am so glad he cut that horrible head of hair!!!! The barber could have gotten a little closer around the neck though!! LOL
Anyone see the play just now? Nuxie said that Clayton couldn’t make the play, but from the radio (and the Lefthander’s description), I couldn’t tell if it was a very difficult chance or not.
I didn’t see it, but they gave him an infield hit, so it must have been a tough play.
Clayton does have 12 errors, not 7. His range factor is a bit better. He’s a bit of an upgrade defensively.
But he’s such a black hole offensively that it’s absurd. We already had Castro, we didn’t need another one.
Confirmed- Clayton has 12 Es this year. Don’t know where I pulled 7 from. So really only about a 20% upgrade…
Yeah, it’s a defensive upgrade. Not overall, though.
Of course, it’s not like Clayton was the key to the trade.
Though Krivsky did say Clayton was an upgrade.
lets just see how things play out why don’t we…
What, we\’re not allowed to discuss it? Why don\’t we just shut down this website then? If discussion isn\’t allowed….
Who else would have Bowden been willing to unload that would have been a better player in the deal than Clayton?
Too bad there are not more people like Abner. If the Reds do make the playoffs, than it will be a good trade even though I HATE losing Kearns as much, if not more, than everyone else.
Hey, I hope more than anyone that the trade works. As I said above, I’ll be the first in line to admit that I was wrong.
I just don’t see any reason to believe that the trade will end up being a good one. In fact, it seems historically bad.
A single here would certainly help…
Yes it would.
Oh well.
Nats have Kearns batting 6th tonight. He just walked.
Lopez walked in the 1st then got caught stealing.
Kearns along with Zimmerman just scored on a Guillen double.
Shut the door, Bronson!!
What’s the deal with no Fox Sports Ohio broadcasts this weekend?
Lopez up with the bases loaded.
I don’t know. It’d be more irritating if I didn’t have MLB.tv.
Let’s go, Deno!!
Unfortunately, Washington’s games are blacked out for me here in Virginia.
Lopez struck out swinging.
Denorfia has not been good so far, but I like the guy. Of course, I always thought he’d make a very good fourth outfielder.
Cook is in tune for a CG if his offense can score.
Offense isn’t looking very good today. Need some runs, guys!
Be a nice time for Junior to get his groove on.
Beam them in, Scottie!!
How long is Aurilla’s hitting streak?
We need some runs here. Bad.
This guy is just clutch!!!
BP, keep the good times rollin’!!
That’ll do it! Way to go, Hatty.
Of course, we need more than one. The bullpen looms on the horizon.
Somebody needs to take a new head shot of BP. The photo shows up on all the site.
I think we better get used to seeing a lot more games like these last 2 in the future. Krivsky is taking the club in that direction. Let’s see what these next 3 innings bring
Let’s me optimistic!! It’s the new bullpen.
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I got a new attitude
Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh
Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh
Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh
I got a new attitude
Who is warming up in the Reds pen?
Joe just answered it. It’s Mercker.
Kearns up with a runner at 3B.
The new bullpen isn\’t that much better than the old one. Majewski and Bray aren\’t world-beaters. Of course, I guess they aren\’t Yan and Hammond, either.
Kearns walked again.
Nice when you have a pitcher that you can send to the plate when you’re down a run and know he will get the sac bunt down. Cliint Hurdle has done a nice job with this club.
Too bad they couldn’t have doubled Barmes off.
Arroyo has a very important quality. He’s lucky!!
Since when was Kearns all-world. He wasn’t that good and you will see a sharp drop in his power numbers now that he’s out of GABP. Lopez hits more HRS than Clayton. Big deal. We need solid defense at short, we have plenty of guys that can hit. This trade will prove to be a good trade.
We can’t afford to waste this solid outing. Especially after the trade.
I don’t know if I can take seeing Clayton at the plate day-in and day-out.
Well, BA got his ERA down under 3.00 again!!
Freel PHing. When will he see the field again? Tomorrow?
CD, it’s time to deliver!!
OK!! Let’s drive Freel in!!
How about a walk then let Dunner hit a 3-run job!!
Time for Denorfia to do something.
That wasn’t it. Denorfia’s pressing too much.
Isn’t Nuxie a great example of how imperfection is a beautiful thing?
I agree. Deno has yet to draw a walk. He had a hitter’s count and let Cook off the hook.
Why aren’t we seeing Bray right now? I don’t trust Mercker.
Mercker then Majewski then Guardado it seems.
Only one batter for Mercker. Hope Majewski is better than he was last night.
So Coffey is the odd man out in the new bullpen?
Can one imagine the Reds bullpen pitching two shutout innings to preserve a 1-0 win to give Arroyo his 10th?
Bigger than the Miracle on Ice!!
Majewski coming in for the LH?
Krivsky’s holding his breath right now. This is exactly the type of situation that made him think he needed to go out and overpay for relievers. If Majewski can hold this lead, he will breath a little easier.
Maybe he better get the JavaMan warming up.
Yeah, get the Java Man warming up!
Another first batter gets a hit against Majewski.
He better throw a DP or he’s going to hear boos louder than Danny Graves!!
oh no…say it isn’t happening again
Two straight hits. I’ve seen this before.
Sheesh.
Lopez walked again. So far tonight he and Kearns have walked twice each.
It’s simple, Majewski!! Get the job done!!
Quit it, Jim! I don’t need to hear that!
Now one more time!!
I mean, I didn’t need to hear the Lopez/Kearns updates.
1 more out ’ski
Phew.
Isn’t Piedra one of the guys who tested positive for roids?
Strike him out and you’re our hero!!
Come on!! He’s a .154 hitter!!
grrrrrrrr
just like the good ole days
Boo.
i cant take this any more
you got to be kidding me to frickin’ Jose Piedra wtf
Esteban Yan or Chris Hammond could have done that. Or David Weathers, for what that’s worth.
…and we’re sucking…
The more things change, the more they stay the same.
Maybe Clayton will hit a homer to tie it up.
We better see the JavaMan in these situations from now on!! Majewski needs to earn the right to be the setup man.
Maybe getting Cook out of the game will help. I don’t quite understand Hurdle taking him out. I guess he’s playing for the big inning.
To the moron that said Mercker isn’t any good he has about eight straight appearances without giving up a run and his ERA is about 1 over the last 11 innings,
Disappointing by Majewski.
I know what Majewski’s problem is. He’s got one of those stupid Rick White/David Weathers beards. If he shaves, he’ll be an All-Star!!
Come on, offense
dunner leading off. Alt least there was no “defensive” double switch…
If only it were that simple, Jim.
I think you take Cook out there. A base hit gives you a two run lead.
Good point, Abner. I’m actually surprised that Narron hasn’t switched him out for Wise or someone else that can’t hit.
I’m sick to my stomach now.
How many times has the bullpen screwed Arroyo out of a victory? This is getting disgusting.
Does anyone know where to look that up quickly?
It’s 92 degrees and Dunn’s ball doesn’t carry?
Man, I thought Dunner’s was gone.
If only we can get to Clayton’s spot in the lineup, I know he’ll come through!
I do know this was the 5th or 6th try for Arroyo to get number 10.
Way to take one for the team Griffey
He should be sitting with 13 or 14 wins.
Cards have already won. We can’t afford to blow this one.
Glad we have an upgraded bullpen.
I’m suprised we havent traded Griffey for Jose Mesa yet…maybe next week.
I don’t get it looking back over the few boxscores the Nationals won I don’t believe Majewski was the set up man now he comes here and he gets the 8th inning. I am disgusted.
Why is it with $3.00 a gallon gas prices that Chrysler is running commercials for vehicles with hemis out of the wazoo?
I think the Bad Boy commented earlier that his last win was around June 16th. 2 losses and this will make the 3rd blown save. Don’t hold me to that tho…
Lets get griffey home!
wow…good job rich…
Majewski was Washington’s set-up man.
Why don’t we have a real cleanup hitter, rather than Aurilia? It would make me more comfortable in situations like this one.
I have tried to lay off Narron, but he just isn’t smart.
How fitting is it that Clayton could possibly end this game in the 9th?
Great, a double play by our wonderful cleanup hitter.
I’m so mad I could scream.
Kearns struck out leading off the 5th inning.
Damn.
damn. Aurilia’s second DP tonight
Who is coming in to pitch? Or do we get more of Majestic Majewski?
Yeah, unless the reds comeback Krisky is going to look real stupid with all the local papers tomorow mourning
How fitting is it that Clayton could possibly end this game in the 9th?
Or win…
By the way, if we were up 9-7 in this game and Coffey came in and gave it up you guys would be screaming at Krivsky for not making a deal yet for a relief pitcher.
Oh, it’s Bray. Well, let’s see how this kid looks. His numbers aren’t outstanding, but they aren’t bad for a 23 year old.
Bad Boy’s getting deparate. “Let us Bray” That was 2/3 of a Pun: P-U
Will you please give it a rest? Seriously. You’re like the trade. We get it.
By the way, we’d be more likely to score 9 runs with Lopez and Kearns.
You miss the point entirely, RedsFanInMd. No one argues that the Reds need relievers. Some of us just think that Krivsky WAY overpaid for what he got.
Nice red herring, though.
yeah we do tend to bitch
Nah, Mr. Z, the local papers will give him a pass, as usual.
I didn’t miss the point. How can you say that after two days? That’s my point. The Reds have a chance to make the playoffs for the first time since 1995 and they did something to shore up their weakest area. Will it work? Who knows, but lets at least give it a chance. IT’s comical to see everyone bash these guys after two days.
I can say it because you NEVER EVER EVER give up two above-average everyday players for two non-closer relief pitchers (and assorted other nothing). It\’s insanity, and I don\’t need to wait any longer than two days to say that.
Chris-And we would be more likely to give up 10 with Weathers and Coffey. See the last two weeks before the all-star break. Wait and see, Kearns and Lopez numbers will plummet out of GABP.
I don’t think they were above average.
haha yeah i know, I think it’s going to be a ongoing problem the rest of the season who is going to be the right handed power hitter cause Rich Aurila is not a NO.4 hitter
Md, you do know that Coffey has a better ERA than either of the brilliant relievers that Krivsky has brought into our lives?
Nice debut inning by Bray.
Coffey just didn’t appear to be able to handle the pressure of closer. As a setup man this year, he has pretty much got the job done.
Don’t run on the Javaman!!
Md, Coffey and Weathers are still here.
You don’t think Kearns and Lopez are above-average? Then I can’t discuss this with you, because you are obviously ignoring facts.
Good grief.
yeah Kearns was solid Lopez has his moment last year but is starting to go back to his blue jay days but i hope we come back
Love JavaMan!
And that was a good debut by Bray. He looks like he has some talent.
Oh, and if Lopez/Kearns’ numbers are going to plummet when they leave GABP, are Majewski and Bray’s going to skyrocket? Just wondering.
Hatt and BP-maybe Ross after that? Let’s go Redlegs!
According to baseball reference the player Austin Kearns most resembles numbers wise (real life not in your head) is Craig Monroe. That’s above average?
Felipe Lopez most resembles Don Pavletich.
No, oz never did give nothing to the JAVAMAN
That he didnt, didnt already have
And cause never was the reason for the evening
Or the tropic of sir galahad
haha thats a good point Coors Field and GAB aren’t much differnt
Genius, those are based on CAREER numbers. That means, that in 4 years, Kearns has done what Craig Monroe has done in his entire career. Take a look at their comps, by age. Kearns’ list is full of studs, HOFers, and washouts.
Chad-Those are the facts. Not what you think they are.
I don’t hate Coffey, I just didn’t like him as a closer. Yes I know they are both here, just in different roles.
Lopez already has more at-bats than Pavletich.
Bad Boy just said Homer went 5, allowing one run (his first run in Chattanooga).
And can you feel the love tonight
It is where we are
It’s enough for this wide-eyed wanderer
That we got this far
And can you feel the love tonight
How it’s laid to rest
It’s enough to make kings and vagabonds
Believe the very best
I am Chris.
Phillips took a walk. Nice!
Put one up in the jet stream (aka power alleys), Royce!!
http://www.baseball-reference.com/about/similarity.shtml
Ya think Krivsky hopes Clayton hits a homer to win it here?
So do I!
And most similar by age is Jermaine Dye (Kearns) and Jeff Blauser (Lopez). Again, not above average. If you want to argue Kearns then I will listen, but to say Lopez is above average is a joke. YOu have to be able to field.
This is where Jerry Narron costs you.
Come ON LaRue!!!
Country Boy, a game winner and the job is yours!!
Thanks Chris, I didn’t know how to get there myself.
Since i was a kearns fan in the Mr.Z Refernce Kearn’s numbers based on some really obsucre stats are similar to Reggie Jackson
OK, why is Larue hitting in this situation?
JLa gets on again. Here we go Edwin!
Ede For the tie or win!!!
Huge break there.
Jermaine Dye is not above average? I give up.
Eddie!! Eddie!! Earn your job back!!
hey LaRue is good…i mean atleast he is not hitting 180 something anymore..
Try reading it. The first item on the similarity scores index says “Games Played.”
No he’s not above average. He’s average.
Jermaine Dye is above Average atleast this season he is playing really well.
.270 hitter with 190 home runs. Is that above average?
haha Chris Deforia for the win?
Wow. Chris Denorfia, now is the time.
OK, Chris!! Get hit and you tie the game.
I’m perfectly willing to put my money where my mouth is. Use any legitimate metrics of your choice to judge the players involved in this trade from here on out, along with their replacements. If the Reds come out ahead, I’ll buy your ticket to a Reds-Nats game next year at RFK.
Holy cow. Who’s left on the bench to hit for Denorfia?
Deno Time!
What is Fuentes doing?
i know but i just said this season he is above average, he is having a career year.
Fuentes is trying to give us false hope!
Chris-I am just saying what is best for the REds. Kearns could go on and have a Jermaine Dye type career but if these bullpen changes get the REds in the playoffs then in my opinion it was worth it. That doesn’t mean that one guy played better than another, it just made sense for the team. We both root for the same team.
haha… well its a win!
This one belongs to the Reds!!
in play…
I’ll take it!!!
Deno!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wise and BP
I am saying THIS SEASON. When they’re trying to make the playoffs. Forget the rest of their careers. I’m only worrying about now — speaking of “ball in playk run-scoring play…”
Way to go Denorfia!
Woo-hoo!
Cm’on gameday!!!??
Did we frickin’ win?
Did they call that E-6?
Denorfia needed a break like that!! The Reds needed a break like that!!
and to end the kearns being an above average player discusion he is, but he was streaky
Fair enough. All I know is they are 3-0 since the trade
Yes! Pay for MLB.tv, you cheapskate!
“Soft ground ball to third base.”
two runs score? WTF?
What happened? Gameday doesn’t give a very good description if you know what I mean
I’ll take it!!!
I will, too. 1 walk, 2 HBP, and a dribbler.
3-0 after the All-Star Break. And we’re keeping pace with the Cards.
Ruled a hit.
It was scored a single with 2 ribbies!
The answer to that questions is yes. I guess Denorfia can come through in the clutch-(Something Kearns had a “slight” problem with…) We dodged a huge bullet tonight, but a win’s a win!!!
Today’s Trade Scoreboard:
Majewski: Another poor outing. Blown Save
Bray: Nice inning
Clayton: Strikeout in 9th
Denorfia: GWRBI
Keeping pace with the Cards AND widening our wild card lead!
Denorfia hit a chopper to short that Barmes misplayed. With two outs, runners were going and two runs scored.
Looked like an error to me, but who cares?
That was an unusual example of small ball.
What did Lopez and Kearns do tonight?
While we’re here: Dye is first in all MLB RFs in EQA. Kearns is 12th.
Felipe is 14th in SS. Does not include defense (poor) or speed (good).
http://www.baseballprospectus.com/statistics/eqa2006.php#possort
I hate the St.Louis Pujols…really he is there team they have some good pitching but on offense i saw theme play today and they are some lucky ass fucks because pujols was fooled and hit a homer still..and rolens game winner was every meaning of hte word bloop!
Lopez and Kearns did better than Majewski.
Thanks Chad
Correction. Those rankings are RARP, not EQA.
Bray showed some stuff there, keeping it quick and scoreless in the 9th. Thats just some of the stuff we’ve been missing. Coffey would probably be a better call in the 8th after Merker. All in all what’s most important is a win.
I agree, Z. Without Pujols, the Cards offense isn’t very good.
who cares KEARNS IS GONE!!
Kearns is currently 0 for 1 w/ 2 BBs.
Felipe is 1 for 2 w/ 2 BBs.
I think Gookie Dawkins is the best shortstop!
Lopez just got his first hit as a Nat He’s 1-2 (single) with a K and 2 BB.
Kearns is 0-1 with 1 K and 2BB, also scored a run.
Kearns is currently 0 for 1 w/ 2 BBs.
Felipe is 1 for 2 w/ 2 BBs.
Who is pitching that game. Its like they are trying to emulate Dunn with the patience.
Wish they’d call up Olmedo to play short.
Heck, I’d rather see Aurilia there, but Narron still probably wouldn’t put Encarnacion at third.
Ryan Wagner’s taking a beating right now in Round Rock.
Let’s see, what other games are going on right now….
F*** THE CARDINALS!!!! I HATE TONY LA RUSA, ALBER PUJOLS AND CHRIS CARPENTER
Double, groundout, single, walk, double, sac fly…
*Albert
Don’t know that Wagner’s ever going to turn it around. Sad story, really. How much difference would he have made on this pen if he were showing his form of a couple years ago?
The Cards offense was pretty good when Sir Albert was on the DL. The thing about Pujols is he is the definition of clutch.
…single…groundout. 1 IP, 4 H, 1 BB, 4 ER. Welcome to New Orleans, Ryan.
We have to sweep the rocks tomorow guys! Mets are coming in town next!
I dunno, the offense struggled without Pujols, didn’t it? And other than Rolen, is there another legit hitter in that lineup?
I think Eddie needs to go beat the crap out of Narron.
I think Albert only looks clutch b/c he hits awesome ALL THE TIME. He’s got an OPS above 1000 in essentially every possible situation (except bases loaded, where he turns into Juan Castro).
Washington/Pittsburgh is the only other NL game still going. Tied at four.
Edmonds is starting to hit, I hear.
Mets took it on the chin from Dusty’s boys today.
I think we should all go beat the crap out of Jerry Narron.
Oh! Snell was the starter for Pittsburgh.
The Bucs just tied the game on a double by JOE RANDA!
How was the Cubs game not blacked out, now that I think of it?
STOP BASHING JUAN CASTRO!!! HE IS HITTING RIGHT NOW! SO DON”T BITCH ABOUT HIM…but anything else is fair game
Homer Bailey gave up a run tonight for Chattanooga. He sucks.
Narron might need to ease up on Majewski. That guy’s thrown a lot of pitches already.
Cubbies CRUSHED the Metroplitans today!
So just because he gets lucky for a week or two, we should lay off him.
Whatever. That’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever had screamed at me. Castro is one of the worst hitters in the history of the game.
980 pitches, to be precise (thanks, espn).
I can’t believe someone is defending Juan Castro. I mean, someone not named “Marty,” that is.
Coffey’s at 738, by comparison.
That seems like a lot, Chris, but what have our other relievers pitched?
Did Harris go to the Bats? He’s not in the line-up.
Well The Mets are the only team that looks like a world series team from the NL…but then agian thats not saying much AL has so many strong teams.
Quick response.
Can anyone justify Narron’s hatred of Encarnacion? What’s he done to get in the doghouse?
Maybe Marty needs to stay on vacation. The Reds are 3-0 in his absence.
well jimmy james like i said, he is hitting right now so don’t bitch about him but i didn’t say he is a great hitter.
Oh, I’ll bitch about him. He’s an out machine who’s been lucky for a week or two. But he’s awful, and every inning he plays for the Reds is an inning that the Reds are worse than they could be.
He’s so awful, I can’t even describe it.
I think Narron is on a defense edict.
That’s no excuse.
the benching of EdE needs to end imediately and jarry narron needs to look rich’s stats in the cleanup spot.
EdE is currently hitting .344/.456/.570 with runners on, to lead the team by a bunch.
Geez If someone is producing for us now you guys still bitch about them
Just reading the recap on ESPN and they mention that tonight was the first time this year that Narron has used the same lineup two days in a row. Talk about nobody knowing their roles.
Yeah, al, I just don’t understand it.
I don’t really mind Aurilia in the lineup, just not for EdE, and not in the cleanup spot.
yeah i agree with you al, EdE needs to start because he is clutch
We are happy when they produce, but that doesn’t mean it’s a good idea for them to be playing.
Do you think Castro should be starting for the Reds, ever? Even just a couple of times a week? Even though he’s shown over his career that he’s one of the five worst hitters in the league?
That’s all Jimmy is saying, I think. That it’s not a good idea to have a Castro on the roster, ever, even if he does get lucky occasionally.
Rich should be at SS and Ed at 3B. We can live with Ed’s defensive learning pains now that he and Oops won’t be having a “who can throw the ball the furthest into the stands” competition.
haha it’s Bob Boone all over agian before we know it Narron will be putting Dunn at leadoff!
Yes, that’s kinda what i was trying to say. Castro is worse than Rey Olmedo, always has been and Castro isnt’ going to get better all of a sudden. It’s dumb to have him on the roster at all.
Hey now, Castro’s not even the worst shortstop on the team! Lay off of him!
Seriously, he’s better defensively than Clayton, and he’s got more power when he does make contact.
By the way, see ya’ Mr. Z. Or should I say, Bill Hansing?
Aaah, that explains it.
Have the Indians games on the tube. Man, does CC Sabaitha have a big butt or what?
Wish he were a Red, though.
If I were Arroyo, I’d refuse to come out of the game. The bullpen blows it for him every time.
Oh, yeah!! CC’s a battler with great stuff! Imagine this team with him added to the rotation!
Lopez up with the bases loaded again.
He’d help, wouldn’t he?
Salomon Torres on the hill versus Fleep. Go Lopez!
It makes me sad that they’ve already got a Nationals hat on Felipe’s head on the Gameday tracker.
Ball one.
felipe had his 15 minutes.
K w/bases loaded.
Crap, he struck out.
Lopez struckout with the bases loaded. Kearns struck out earlier in the inning.
daedalus, you were away for a while, but above, I complimented you on your hilarious term, saying that EdE has “Narronitis.”
Very funny.
thanks! i really hope it isn’t contagious…
Dunn might be the next to catch it. Or Junior.
Then, we’re pretty much out of good hitters at this point.
Bailey’s night is done.
7 innings, 7 hits, 2 runs, 3 K’s
ERA has soared to 0.75
I’m so pissed off that the Nationals are blacked out here, six and a half hours away from DC.
Bailey is flat-out awesome!
Egads. More thinking about the Castro/Clayton comparison….
Royce Clayton, the starting shortstop the past two games, is arguably the fifth best shortstop on the team now, behind Phillips, Freel, Aurillia, and Castro.
And… he’s starting (and EdE’s on the bench.)
Whoops, sorry about the missed tag.
Thanks for making my head hurt worse, Bill N. You’re right.
Narron is an idiot.
Chad, the Nationals are blacked out almost everywhere. Only a Verizon error allows me to watch them.
p.s. shhhh…
The sad part is that I’d probably watch a bunch of Nationals games, because I lived in DC for three years (in law school). I like the team. But I can’t watch them.
This whole blackout policy is absurd.
I won’t tell Verizon.
Wow, second longest game thread ever.
if you ever want to know how to get around a blackout on a computer, email me…
I just emailed you.
NBC has wrestling on??? Are they becoming Turner Broadcasting?
Good grief, Jim, what’s up with that?
Okay, I’m out of here. Fun game tonight, well, most of it was fun.
See you tomorrow.
I thought I had the wrong channel. No wonder Katie Couric bailed!
Let’s hope Majewski takes a rest tomorrow.
Who do the Reds send out? The Lizard?
yep, EZ is scheduled.
are they off monday?
the reds site says claussen might pitch the 22nd, the next time they’ll need a fifth.
and not that this proves anything, but the washington nationals were defeated by the win-challenged pirates tonight 7 to 6. The new nats bullpen gave up runs in the 8th and the 9th to blow a one run lead.
kearns and lopez went a combined 1 for 7 with 4 bb and 5 k.
Anyone else notice that Naroon has been managing differently since he got the contract extension. Just seems that all these lineups based on “defense” have come about more frequently since the extension.
What does it say to Encarnacion that when he makes an error he gets three days off, but when Aurilia makes an error he’s back in the lineup the next day.
Someone made an excellent point earlier. If all it cost for the Reds current closer is Travis Chick, we did Krivsky have to pay Kearns AND Lopez for 2 setup guys?
Lopez has now left 13 runners in Scoring Postion in two games, so offensively you could actually say Clayton is doing just as good or better than Felipe, though I would like them to work Phillips there (SS) when they can….I’d go with Aurilia at 1st/2nd depending on the Lefty/Righty situation and bench Hatteberg at first but play EEncarn at 1st with Aurilia at 3rd with lefties. Aurilia at 2nd/bench with righties and EE @ 3rd w/Hatte @ 1st.
A lot of people are overrating Felipe Lopez (along with overrating Kearns, the main “slugger” in the deal… Check this statlog: Lopez in July- 4 for 29, 0 extra basehits, 5BB’s, 3K’s, 1SB. I think he had his best year last season….NL Pitchers have figured him out this year therefore the trade looks even to me so far. (With only two games to go on I really ought not judge the trade until mid August at the earliest, but I will) I Predict a 1 or 2 game gap between the Reds and Cards for the rest of the year. Unless we have Griffey or Dunn go down we will be in the HUNT!!!
I’m with you Chris, but I’m sure Pinski will pop in anytime and analyze your argument and show you how your 1 or 2 game gap cannot possibly last when divided by pie, multiplied by Pujols, and especially when you subtract Lopez and Kearns.
GO REDS……..AND I DON’T GIVE A CRAP WHO HAS THE UNIFORM ON, JUST WIN BABY!
I just read a while back where Jim said Marty should stay on vacation…….
You should be barred from even rooting for the Reds for suggesting that!!!!
Phillip is cheering for laundry (TM Jerry Seinfeld), and Chris T says that the trade is good because Lopez had a bad week. Don’t worry Phillip, no stats anymore. In fact, no facts of any kind are allowed anymore. You can keep your head right there in the sand, and believe whatever you want.
The negativity on this board is amazing. I don’t see what Narron has done to deserve this. He is managing a flawed team and has them in first place in the wild card. Juan Castro is who he is, a solid defensive replacement who USED to be an automatic out but now isn’t that bad IN HIS ROLE. Anyone that says Marty B should be on permanent vacation should be shot at 12 noon at Fountain Square.
By the way, I’m not talking about Jermaine Dye’s season. I’m talking about his career and his career is average. To me, above average is Jim Rice.
Thanks Chris, I’ll keep my head in the sand you keep yours….