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Game thread: Reds at Pirates — 2006.05.17

I’m trying to remain optimistic. I really am. We have Bronson Arroyo going tonight, and that’s good news for the good guys. Oliver Perez is on the mound for the Buccos, which is good news for everyone else, but Perez has had some success against Cincinnati in his career. We’ll see what happens.

Here’s a game thread to discuss whatever your heart desires.

90 comments to Game thread: Reds at Pirates — 2006.05.17

  • Jim McCullough

    Please break out the whooping sticks tonight, Reds!!

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  • Chad

    That’s a reasonable request.

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  • Chad

    One pitch, one hit. Maybe tonight will be the night the bats wake up.

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  • nice way to start!

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  • Chad

    A three run jack would be nice here. Is that asking too much?

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  • Chad

    Come on, Uncle Junior!

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  • i’d be happy with a hit.

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  • yay! go kearns!

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  • Chad

    Only one run out of that? Not good, but I’ll take it.

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  • one run? pathetic!

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  • Chad

    Bronson! Don’t let us down.

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  • Chad

    Nice dig out of the dirt, Dunner.

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  • freel would have caught that hit

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  • Chad

    Did Ross really just get a bunt hit?

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  • Chad

    Just because you got a bunt hit doesn’t mean you are fast, Ross. Why are you trying to steal third?

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  • Dave Massey

    I really didn’t like that Felipe didn’t try to leg that one out.

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  • Dave Massey

    Especially three plays after their catcher made a bad throw to first. Keep the pressure on, Felipe. Sprint down the line and force another bad throw!

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  • Dave Massey

    Chad, I know you love Dunn, but talk to your boy about his glovework, please?

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  • Chad

    Adam Dunn’s glove is the last thing the Reds should be concerned with. There are a million problems with this team that are more pressing.

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  • Chad

    Of course, that’s not saying that he has a good glove. It’s terrible.

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  • Dave Massey

    Adam Dunn’s glove is the last thing the Reds should be concerned with. There are a million problems with this team that are more pressing.

    True, but that grounder down the 1b line wasn’t unplayable at all. Probably should have gotten to that one.

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  • Chad

    I’m not claiming he’s a good fielder, by any means.

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  • DevilsAdvocate

    Wow. Not a good start to this game at all. Arroyo’s BABIP is regressing toward the mean tonight.

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  • Dave Massey

    Yeah, I feel like a lot of the pitching has to do with not feeling comfortable with the offense. It’s hard to relax when you don’t know if your team will be able to scrape together 2 runs over the course of a game.

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  • griffey doesn’t catch ANYthing

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  • DevilsAdvocate

    Radio announcers seemed surprised that the ball hit over Griffey carried as far as it did. Maybe they were watching Griffey drift.

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  • DevilsAdvocate

    Oh, Brandon – take the pitches that you cannot hit.

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  • DevilsAdvocate

    Leadoff walk to Freel. I’d like to see him cause Perez some consternation on the basepaths.

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  • DevilsAdvocate

    Two walks to start the inning, and two speed merchants on base for Griffey.

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  • DevilsAdvocate

    Griffey with an RBI single…to the opposite field through the normal SS position! I love it – take what you’re given. 4-2 Pirates.

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  • DevilsAdvocate

    Looks like it’s Perez’s turn to struggle with the strikezone. Closing in on 100 pitches with one out in the fifth, is Oliver.

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  • DevilsAdvocate

    A double play? :cry:

    Got to hand it to the defense on that one – not a weak grounder hit by Kearns.

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  • DevilsAdvocate

    5 walks and 5 hits and not yet through the fifth…and just two runs to show for all these baserunners.

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  • i’m thoroughly disgusted with that inning. four walks in the inning and only one run?

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  • DevilsAdvocate

    At least Arroyo seems to have settled down – just set them down 1-2-3 for the first time.

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  • DevilsAdvocate

    Each pitcher has thrown 99 pitches through 5 innings.

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  • DevilsAdvocate

    Infield hit for Freel. 2-3 with a walk thus far. Hopefully a few days off is just what he needed to recharge and break out of his slump.

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  • it’s nice to see freel on base so much.

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  • that jimmy fallon pepsi commercial grates on my last nerve, esp. when the reds are losing.

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  • DevilsAdvocate

    Freel picked off! Oh, he’s so frustrating on base!
    :!::mad::!::sad::!::cry::!::?::!:

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  • Mike

    it’s nice to see freel on base so much.

    Comment by daedalus — 5/17/2006 @ 9:02 pm

    Where?

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  • DevilsAdvocate

    Need a hit from Adam Dunn. Last time Freel made a bonehead mistake on base, the Reds scored a bunch of runs despite him…

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  • DevilsAdvocate

    OK, Dunn passes the buck to EdE. Bases loaded with two out.

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  • Mike

    EE needs to come through

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  • DevilsAdvocate

    Jim Tracy is channelling LaRussa with all these pitching changes.

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  • DevilsAdvocate

    Argh. Three pitches is all it took.

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  • Mike

    How many chances to you get before they all dry up?

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  • DevilsAdvocate

    After a hit and a walk to start, Coffey reaches back and blows ‘em away. Strikes out the side, gotta like that.

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  • DevilsAdvocate

    Now: HITS! WALKS! RUNS!

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  • DevilsAdvocate

    How many chances to you get before they all dry up?

    Down in order in the eighth. But top of the order due up in the ninth. Billy Hatcher better make sure to have a talk with Freel.

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  • DevilsAdvocate

    Let me get this straight – Narron double-switches Encarnacion out when Coffey comes in, but still only uses Coffey for but a single inning? And even better, takes Coffey out in favor of Rick White? That’s my Jerry Narron WTF Move Of The Day.

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  • WTF is Narron’s middle name.

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  • Rick White sux.

    That’s all.

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  • Bill Hansing

    This is getting ugly.

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  • Bill Hansing

    I am so mad to see Rick White pitch for this club.

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  • RICK WHITE SUX! WHY IS HE STILL WEARING A MAJOR LEAGUE UNIFORM?

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  • Bill Hansing

    If Rick White isn’t DFAed this weekend — I will write to Wayne Krivsky and complain — which is a first for me.

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  • IT’S NARRON’S FAULT FOR PUTTING HIM INTO THE GAME ANYWAY. WHAT THE HELL????

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  • Do it, and sign all of our names.

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  • (sorry, forgot to turn off caps for that last comment.)

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  • even the nationals took two of three from the pirates.

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  • Bill Hansing

    Freel picked off! Oh, he’s so frustrating on base!

    Comment by DevilsAdvocate — 5/17/2006 @ 9:08 pm

    If anyone else made as many baserunning boners as Freel has this year — that player would be crucified — for some reason when Freel screws up, which is more and more often, people around here just stop talking about him for a while.

    Freel has made stupid plays in the field, he has run us out of rallies and would be even more if not for Junior’s heroics, he has a very poor instinct for when he should be stealing, he isn’t hitting — I don’t see this guy as the wonderfully great player that so many others do.

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  • DevilsAdvocate

    Jeez. That was awful. Narron is a former catcher, isn’t he? So how come he hasn’t a clue how to handle pitchers?

    Freel leads off the ninth with another walk. Hard to be excited when the deficit is five.

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  • Bill Hansing

    Dave Williams needs to keep us from getting swept tomorrow.

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  • Bill Hansing

    That’s scary

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  • DevilsAdvocate

    The frustrating thing about Freel is that when he’s on, he carries the team on his little oompa loompa legs. When he’s not on, his sawed-off style of play can stop everyone cold.

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  • DevilsAdvocate

    Maybe Dunn will hit a 5-run homer here.

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  • DevilsAdvocate

    :smile:

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  • AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGGH:!::!::!::!::!:

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  • DevilsAdvocate

    That’s 5 in a row. Three very good starts from the back end of the rotation, one not-good start from the ace, and one serviceable start from the other ace. And nothing to show for it.

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  • Bill Hansing

    Let me ask you all, is this as bad as it gets — or could it be closer to who this club really is?

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  • Bill Hansing

    I’m not the big fan of Ryan Freel that many of you folks are. I don’t want the generalization out there that Redleg Nation people like Ryan Freel The better more accurate statement is that some Redleg Nation people like Ryan Freel.

    He’s not “on” enough. Not enough for me.

    If Krivsky could get a servicable reliever for Ryan Freel, I would pull the trigger on a deal like that.

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  • Bill Hansing

    This team REALLY is missing Rich Aurilia’s bat.

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  • DevilsAdvocate

    I have to think this is as bad as it gets, because it’s the most exasperating – the part of the team anticipated to be weakest is showing strength, while their one huge strength is letting them down.

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  • Bill Hansing

    I’m just concerned that we aren’t doing anything against bad teams.

    Earlier (in April) we were “holding our own” against the Cardinals and Astros; we were winning close games and blowing people out.

    Now — against teams we should be betaing — we are doing nothing.

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  • Bill Hansing

    I almost wish they would make a move — like getting DeNorfia back up and stick him in left field — and hope he could catch lightening in a bottle for a few weeks — similar to what Brandon Phillips did for a stretch.

    I think something like that could shake things up — positively — until some of the big guys get going again.

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  • Bill Hansing

    Looks like the Cubs are getting well again at the expense of Bowden’s club.

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  • Bill Hansing

    Adam Dunn’s glove is the last thing the Reds should be concerned with. There are a million problems with this team that are more pressing.

    Comment by Chad — 5/17/2006 @ 7:43 pm

    No offense, Chad, but to say that out of a “million” things the Reds have as problem that the LAST thing they need to be concerned with — could quite possibly be one of the best examples of “denial” that I have read in a while.

    There are bigger problems than Dunn’s defense — for sure. And I know the “million” reference was just a figure of speech.

    But to minimize the magnitude of Dunn’’s defensive liabilities is to minimize one of the Reds’ larger “issues”. Denial INDEED.

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  • Bill Hansing

    Of the 37 errors this club has made so far — through yesterday — Encarnacion has 11; FeLo has 8 = 19 of the 37 by these two guys already.

    Dunn has 4 errors — and numerous balls that he just hasn’t gotten to at all.

    THIS is a problem for this team moving forward into the future.

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  • Glenn

    Rick White is not going to make it through this season on the Reds’ roster. There are some moves to be made when Milton comes back. If I were White, I’d keep my suitcase packed.

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  • Bill Hansing

    Rick White is not going to make it through this season on the Reds’ roster. There are some moves to be made when Milton comes back. If I were White, I’d keep my suitcase packed.

    Comment by Glenn — 5/17/2006 @ 11:10 pm

    I agree with you, Glenn.

    What continues to trouble me is that even with Rick White gone — we still have Mike Burns. I haven’t forgotten how poorly he pitched as well.

    Then there’s Shackleford — who is incredibly inconsistent; Belisle — ditto; Mercker’s out; Hammond has sucked.

    My point is that we need to add an arm to this bull-pen staff that would be an improvement over the guys above.

    Weathers and Coffey are the only two guys who we can even remotely count on to perform — and they are far from “automatic”.

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  • GregD

    No offense, Chad, but to say that out of a “million” things the Reds have as problem that the LAST thing they need to be concerned with — could quite possibly be one of the best examples of “denial” that I have read in a while.

    I agree with Chad. Adam Dunn is the last thing the Reds should be concerned with. Dunn is on pace for 120 runs and over 100 RBI. His defensive errors don’t even begin to diminish those numbers.

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  • GregD

    Hammond has sucked.

    His overall stats aren’t pretty, thanks to a terrible first week of the season. Since April 15th, Hammond has pitched 9 and 2/3 innings with a 1.86 ERA and 0.93 WHIP. Both runs allowed were solo homeruns.

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  • Brian B.

    Not bad stats indeed, GregD. Not many positives in the last week, but it was fun to see Hammond float some “fast”balls by hitters. Ryan Howard was almost laughing after striking out.

    It reminded me of that commercial (Intel I think) where the pitcher throws the ball and it stops in mid-air while the processor is locked up.

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  • The bad thing is that Hammond signed a 2 year deal, so it’s means jettisoning payroll if they cut him loose.

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  • GregD

    His level of sucktitude hasn’t continued like other relievers on this team. You have a bad week like that in the middle of the season, and it doesn’t kill your numbers as much. Have it the first week of the year, and it looks terrible for a while. Given what Hammonds has done as a reliever the past 4 seasons (ERA’s of 0.95, 2.86, 2.68, and 3.84 with WHIP’s ranging from 1.1-1.2), I don’t have a problem with Hammonds in the bullpen so long as his first week problem stays in the first week of the season and doesn’t become a recurring issue.

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  • Bill Hansing

    I agree with Chad.

    Comment by GregD — 5/19/2006 @ 10:07 am

    Well imagine that !!! :roll::roll::roll:

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  • GregD

    Instead of discussing the Reds, BillH prefers to make personal comments. Imagine that!

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  • Chad

    I agree, Greg. I’m growing tired of it.

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