I guess it’s some combination of nine consecutive losing seasons and the expectation that 2010 will be the tenth straight…but I’ve never been more apathetic about the Reds. I still love the club, but I just don’t enjoy thinking about them right now.
I dunno, I just needed to get that off my chest. It makes me sad. Sigh….
Arroyo said that he would be surprised if he were traded this offseason, and offered his reasons why he doesn’t expect any of the big salaried players to be moved:
“In my mind, there was no reason to get [Scott] Rolen [in a July 31 trade] if we’re turning around and moving guys without waiting to see what happens [during the season],” Arroyo said. “I think they’ll give us four months to see if we can compete in the division. If we’re not, we’ll have a big scale back. For now, they seem committed to win.”
Snip…
“I know the budget is tight,” Arroyo said. “But if you re-sign Ramon [Hernandez] for a year, why then go in the other direction? If we were saving, we could have easily had [Ryan] Hanigan catching 130 games next year.”
And how about that carpal tunnel?
“It’s been good and I haven’t felt it at all,” Arroyo said. “I’ve been playing my guitar and haven’t felt it. I have a show with [ESPN's] Peter Gammons on Jan. 9 and after that I’ll probably stop playing.”
The gang at Red Letter Daze is running their annual holiday gift guide. Today’s topic is apparel, and there’s some good stuff in there. It’s a two-parter, so check back later for more. (You can also see last year’s epic “Twelve Days of a Redleg Christmas” set, if you still can’t find something for the Reds fan in your life).
Time for a recap of tonight’s titanic Strat-O-Matic Dream struggle….
FINAL
1990 Cincinnati Reds 2
1975 Cincinnati Reds 4
WP: J. Billingham (1-0)
LP: D. Jackson (0-1)
S: F. Norman (1) PLAY BY PLAY
Player of the Game
–Jack Billingham. Billingham pitched seven strong innings, allowing no runs while scattering 6 hits. Billingham struck out four, and walked two. At the plate, he also had a triple and a walk in two at-bats, with an RBI.
Heroes
–Pete Rose (1 RBI) and George Foster (1 run scored) each went 2-4. No other 1975 Red had more than one hit.
–Billy Hatcher went 3-5 for the 1990 Reds, with two doubles. He continues his hot hitting from the actual 1990 World Series.
–Todd Benzinger hit a two-run homer in his only at-bat, the only runs the 1990 Reds would score on the night.
–Rob Dibble was, well, Rob Dibble. In his only inning of work, Dibble allowed the first two batters to reach via hit and walk. In typical fashion, however, Dibble promptly struck out the next three hitters.
ETC.
–This was a game that the 1990 Reds could easily have won. They equaled the hit total of the 1975 Reds, and had twice as many extra-base-hits. As they were known to do, however, the Big Red Machine put together timely hits and got some runs across.
–Danny Jackson was pitching a pretty strong game until the seventh inning. Perhaps manager Lou Piniella should have pulled Jackson after six, and turned the final third of the game over to The Nasty Boys. Yes, it’s possible that a managerial misstep may have cost the 1990 Reds a chance of tying up the series.
–Unlike the actual game 2 of the 1990 series, the game didn’t go into extra innings, Billy Bates didn’t make an appearance, and Marty Brennaman didn’t have to send out a call over the radio for Tom Browning to return to the stadium in case he might have to pitch.
–The 1975 Reds lead this best-of-seven series, two games to zero.
–Game three starting pitchers: Gary Nolan (15-9, 3.16 ERA in 1975) vs. Tom Browning (15-9, 3.80 ERA for the 1990 Reds).
–The series will resume at 1990 Riverfront Stadium for Game Three.
Welcome to Game Two of the Inaugural Redleg Nation Dream Series.
Tonight, the 1975 World Champion “Big Red Machine” Cincinnati Reds will be facing the 1990 World Champion “Wire to Wire” Cincinnati Reds in the second game of a “dream” seven-game series. You will recall that the 1975 Reds won the first game by a score of 9-2.
The games are to be played out at Redleg Nation World Headquarters, i.e., my living room, using the Strat-O-Matic board game.
The 1975 Reds will host game two at 1975 Riverfront Stadium. Starting lineups are below (the actual starting lineups these teams used in their own game twos in 1990 and 1975).
I will be posting updates as I get time to play the game out tonight (around the childrens’ bathtimes and bedtimes). Discuss the game here!
The Reds are trying to sign Jonny Gomes; Walt Jocketty is hopeful a deal will get worked out.
We already know that Laynce Nix declared for free agency, but it’s interesting to note that the Reds made an offer to Nix, and that offer remains on the table:
“They still may take it,” Jocketty said. “But they want to see what’s out there. We weren’t comfortable with what the arbitration figure would be. With Gomes, we wanted to keep some protection. I still think there’s a chance we’ll get something done with him.”
The rest of the transactions, you already know about thanks to Greg’s post and the discussion of yesterday. Added to the 40-man roster and, thus, protected from the Rule 5 Draft: RHP Enerio Del Rosario, OF Chris Heisey, RHP Logan Ondrusek, RHP Jordan Smith, IF Chris Valaika, LHP Philippe Valiquette and LHP Travis Wood.
Friday, November 20 is the deadline for teams to file their 40-man roster reserve lists for the December 10th Rule 5 Draft. Players are not required to be protected on a club’s reserve list until they’ve been under club control for 4 or 5 years, depending on the age they signed. For this year’s draft, minor league college draftees from the 2006 draft class (or earlier) and high school players drafted in 2005 (or earlier) can be selected by other organizations if they are not on the Reds 40-man roster today.
Teams cannot protect additional (minor league) players after today, but they could create roster space to add players in the draft. The worst example of this in recent Reds history is dropping Jorge Cantu in 2007 for the opportunity to select Sergio Valenzuela.
The Reds 40-man roster currently sits at 36 players. The Reds 40-man roster and organizational depth chart is outlined on the Redleg Nation Big Board over in the right sidebar. The only roster change since the last update is that Kip Wells filed for free agency.
Travis Wood, Chris Heisey, and Chris Valaika are the clear favorites to take three of the current four roster openings. Logan Ondrusek made his way through multiple levels this season, finishing in the Louisville closer’s role and was sent to the Arizona Fall League. He’s likely to take the 4th current opening on the 40-man roster.
The Reds talent depth will likely discourage them from participating in the Rule 5 draft this year. We may even see another move or two today to protect additional minor league players.
They could make space by removing Willy Taveras, Craig Tatum, and Laynce Nix from the roster, and protecting additional arms (like Enerio Del Rosario, Alex Smit, and Ben Jukich) or another bat like Daniel Dorn.
UPDATE 3:50pm: John Fay of the Enquirer and many others are tweeting that the Reds promoted 7 minor league players to their 40-man roster:
Travis Wood
Chris Valaika
Chris Heisey
Logan Ondrusek
Enerio Del Rosario
Jordan Smith
Philippe Valiquette
To make room for these players, the 40-man roster was reduced from 36 to 33 by waiving Craig Tatum (claimed by Orioles) and Daryl Thompson. They also non-tendered Laynce Nix, who elected to become a free agent.
1. Todd Frazier, of/2b/3b
2. Yonder Alonso, 1b
3. Mike Leake, rhp
4. Chris Heisey, of
5. Juan Francisco, 3b
6. Yorman Rodriguez, of
7. Travis Wood, lhp
8. Matt Maloney, lhp
9. Brad Boxberger, rhp
10. Zack Cozart, ss
My only problem with this list is that Leake and Boxberger’s professional experience is a total of 28 1/3 innings. I wouldn’t list anyone on my “top prospects” list until they had a season of minor league baseball under their belt. I have a bit of a problem with Francisco at #5, but he had a great offensive season last year; hopefully it’ll continue.
Best Tools:
Best Hitter for Average: Yonder Alonso
Best Power Hitter: Juan Francisco
Best Strike-Zone Discipline: Yonder Alonso
Fastest Baserunner: Theodis Bowe
Best Athlete: Yorman Rodriguez
Best Fastball: Brad Boxberger
Best Curveball: Mike Leake
Best Slider: Mark Serrano
Best Changeup: Travis Wood
Best Control: Matt Maloney
Best Defensive Catcher: Chris McMurray
Best Defensive Infielder: Miguel Rojas
Best Infield Arm: Juan Francisco
Best Defensive Outfielder: David Sappelt
Best Outfield Arm: Yorman Rodriguez
On Thursday, Mike Leake put an exclamation point on a year in which he led the nation in wins for Arizona State University, was a Golden Spikes finalist and was selected by Cincinnati in the first round of the Draft.
Leake allowed two hits and struck out four over four shutout innings as the Peoria Saguaros defeated the Mesa Solar Sox, 8-1, in the final game of the Arizona Fall League regular season.
Leake ended up with 9 1/3 scoreless innings after finishing his junior season with the Sun Devils with a 16-1 record.
Also:
Reds prospect Yonder Alonso doubled and drove in a pair of runs…
Wells is the only Red to file for free agency, but the Reds still have some decisions to make. They’ve already made the questionable decision to bring back Ramon Hernandez. Next up: Jonny Gomes and Laynce Nix.
Should the Reds bring either of these guys back? You know I love Gomes and his sombrero, but I’m still wavering on whether the Reds should get him signed, and if so, how much they should spend to do that.
What about Nix? He isn’t as good a hitter as Gomes, but he’s more versatile; he can play all three outfield positions credibly.
Heck, maybe the Reds should just give the LF job to Chris Heisey.
The Reds have re-signed catcher Ramon Hernandez to a one-year contract, according to a major-league source.
The deal also includes a vesting option for 2011 that will become guaranteed if Hernandez appears in 120 games next season.
The Reds had declined an $8.5 million option on Hernandez and bought out his contract for $1 million.
Hernandez, 33, hit .258 with five home runs and 37 RBI in 287 at-bats last season, his first with the Reds. He missed nearly two months after undergoing surgery on his left knee on July 20, appearing in only 81 games.
The knee injury also had hampered him earlier in the season, but Hernandez is expected to be 100-percent by spring training.
Hernandez, an 11-year veteran, has a career batting average/on-base/slugging line of .262/.327/.417.
by Chad Dotson on November 16th, 2009 in 2010 Reds
John Fay’s column yesterday was an attempt to list reasons why the Reds shouldn’t trade Brandon Phillips and/or Bronson Arroyo. It’s all based on the premise that the Reds might be able to compete in 2010.
Personally, I think that’s silly; I don’t think there’s any way the Reds can compete next year. This is not a good team. So go ahead and trade Phillips and Arroyo, right?
Well, I don’t trust the powers that be to get a good return for either guy. This is a front office that evaluated Willy Taveras and decided he was worth a two-year contract, when everyone else in the world knew that was insane. So don’t trade Phillips and Arroyo, right?
Who knows? I bet you guys and gals have an opinion, though.
The Reds’ need to slash payroll, according to a major league source, could lead them to explore trading second baseman Brandon Phillips as well as right-handers Bronson Arroyo and Aaron Harang.
Cincinnati’s 2009 payroll was about $71 million. General manager Walt Jocketty said during a break Tuesday at the GM Meetings that he “might” have to move some high-salaried players to meet the 2010 goal.
snip…
The source above said the Reds plan to cut back to $65-70 million, which is a challenge in part because of raises due Harang ($11 million to $12.5 million), Arroyo (from $9.5 million to $11 million) and Phillips (from $4.75 million to $5 million).
With their salaries and so-so 2009 seasons, the pitchers would be hard to trade without the Reds taking on some of their pay. So Cincinnati’s best bet could be finding a taker for Phillips, who last season hit .276 with 30 doubles, 20 homers, 98 RBI and 25 stolen bases.
The source said the Reds would prefer to keep closer Francisco Cordero, who has two years and $25 million left on his deal.
I have no problem with moving high salaries, including Brandon Phillips. But where does it make sense to trade Harang or Arroyo or even Phillips and to keep Cordero?
And this is the second place I’ve seen talk of trading Votto. The only way the Reds should consider trading him is IF (and this isn’t my thoughts or beliefs) they believe they’re going to have to deal with his mental health issues (I don’t know what else to call it) every season.
When he plays, he’s a stud and I sure would hate to see him go.
UPDATE:In addition to the blurb in the comments from Fay, this was on Foxsports.com:
The Reds are not cutting payroll, but they are looking to free up dollars and create flexibility for other moves.
Thus, everyone on their roster is available except first baseman Joey Votto, outfielder Jay Bruce and third baseman Scott Rolen, according to one source with knowledge of the club’s thinking.
The team’s highest-priced players — closer Francisco Cordero, second baseman Brandon Phillips and right-handers Aaron Harang and Bronson Arroyo — all are in play.
No additional Reds roster transactions have been announced yet, but we have more stories on the Reds payroll situation, and player notes on Chris Heisey and Brandon Phillips. Continue reading Reds Notes, No Transactions
2009 stats: Sarasota 2-1 8 Games 8 Games Started 42.1 IP 4.89 ERA 1.44 WHIP
Carolina 3-2 6 Game 6 Game Started 36 2/3 IP 2.95 ERA 1.09 WHIP
Louisville 2-2 5 Game 5 Game Started 29 IP 2.48 ERA 1.21 WHIP
RN Exclusives!
The Big Board -- In-Depth Reds Organizational Depth Chart (updated 11/22/09)
Salary Chart -- Our chart on the current and future contract status for the Reds roster (updated 4/25/09)
Recent Comments